Marciano v Cokkell In Color D Brown The Plusses & The Negatives

And that's the beauty of the man, the fact that he emerged victorious from the jaws of defeat, time and time again. That's what makes a true champion i.e Larry Holmes getting up from that horrifying Earnie Shaver's knockdown and soldiering on to win the fight through sheer heart and determination.

You never know what strength you really have until you're tested.

 

He was a clumsy caveman of a fellow I agree, you could say the personification of Fred Flintstone if he was a boxer; but I think that's a decisive characteristic that defined him.

 

Fair play Mac. Nice one.

 

Rocky fought like it was a gimme, that was a poor performance, technically

 

This is an absolute nonsense, Take that back!! Don deserved to be there as much as any challenger to the title. His credentials were greater than Andy Ruiz when he beat Joshua.

Don was the #2 challenger. As a wise man once said, If a champion fights the #2 challenger today everyone would throw their hat into the air!

And as I told you earlier on this thread until round 5 Don paid Rocky back for every foul Marciano ever did to him. Rocky got away with nothing. Don elbowed And butted Rocky right back each and every time.

Dons manager was a piece of crap. He should have been thrown out of boxing for allowing Don to come out for the last two rounds. He complained about fouls even though he watched his own man foul Rocky every bit as much in retaliation to every foul he received, then when his fighter could no longer defend himself and the ref showed no inclination to stop the fight he did nothing! What an absolute crumb of a man.

yes Rocky was rough and the referees turned a blind eye whenever Marcianos opponents retaliated with fouls... so you can’t have that. Different if Rocky was fouling the hell out of guys and the referees were only policing Rockys opponents whilst letting Rocky do all sorts...but that never happened. If you have evidence of Marciano opponents being warned about retaliation or that a foul from Rocky was in any way instrumental in a win then I want to hear all about it and I would happily accept it ...But that was never the case was it?

 

I do know what I’m talking about! I’m talking about exactly what is on view from the film! Everything I said is backed up by the film of the fight.

Don retaliated with every foul without being penalised until the point in the fight where his corner should have pulled Don out.

why do you insist on relying on sensationalism of the press when you have the film to show you what can be seen with your own eyes!

 

yes Don did reply. Watch the fight please. Don hit him low straight away after Rocky did it to him.

And Don butted Rocky back. Watch the film. Don got his head right underneath and had Rocky bump right into it a couple of times. Probably did a better head butt than Rocky did.

if you saw the film instead of just reading the sensationalism you would know Don responded. It’s self evident.

rocky hit everyone after the bell, Archie Moore, Walcott all of them. It’s not like Don was singled out. And it’s difficult to respond once it has happened.

 

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Okay care to observe these points in the fight then? I maintain for the first 5 rounds Don responded to every foul. As a direct response to Marcianos rough house tactics most deliberately in round four Don hits low at the 6:48 mark. At the 7:03 mark Don expertly puts his elbow on Rocky and leans in on it moments after Rocky did the same to him. And as early as round two Don target kidneys coming out of the clinch, again as a result of head bumping. Both men head butted each other pretty good. It got so that Don would constantly dip moments ahead of Marciano lunging in after round 3 to catch him and it was his doing this that Don was first stung by a left hook in round 5 that really turned the tide for Marciano.

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