Marciano v Liston's Best Opponents?

Did Machen ever get a chance to win it?
My point is you asked this.
"didn’t Marciano make a career out of knocking out 195lb slick defensive counterpunchers like Machen?"
And the answer is an emphatic no he didn't! He only met one fighter who fits that description and he was 38 having his last 2 fights.
I'm not saying Machen beats him ,I'm saying he was a 26 years old slick defensive counterpuncher as opposed to a 38years old one .A 26 years old one who , unlike 12 years older Walcott , was bang in his prime.
After being caught cold by Ingo Machen went on to beat among others;
DeJohn
London
Jones
Rischer
Draw with Williams
A Johnson
Quarry
After being beat by Marciano Walcott bought a restaurant.

 

Rocky24th fights stops DeJohn in 10rds,gets dropped in the 2nd.
Rocky 26 fights beats Valdes by decision no knockdowns.
Rocky
Rocky 30th fight ko's Harris in 8rds.
Rocky 31 fights , decisions Folley.
Rocky 32 fights, split decisions Machen.
Rocky 35th fight stops Patterson in8rds.
Rocky 36th fight stops Patterson in 6 rds.
Rocky 37th fight is tko'd by Ali in 8rds.
Rocky 39th fight is tko'd by Ali in 6rds.
Nine fights 7 wins. 2 losses.

 

Neither was a prime 26 years old and neither was 195lbs.
Moore got his shot and failed, we don't know how Machen would have done in a rematch with Ingo who refused to honour one, ,or a title shot with Floyd
45-1?
Yes and 28 of them were light heavies or super middles
Six of the heavies had the following records
21-19-7
25-23-1
5-0-0
8-3-2
13-17-1
22-10-0
Not too difficult to run up a winning streak against that type of quality imo .
Machen beat.
Mederos
Holman
Summerlin
Maximx2
Baker
Jackson
Young Jack Johnson
Besmanoff
McMurtry
Hunter
A Johnson
Bethea
Miteff
DeJohn
London
Jones
Rischer
And drew with Williams and Folley.
Moore beat
Lavorante
Rademacher
Besmanoff
Rischer
Dunlap
Valdes x2
Henry
Slade
Bivins
Drew with Sys
I've tried to focus on guys that weighed in as bona fide heavies when they fought both.
I don't think there is much in it as far as resume is concerned.

 

When did Mathews weigh 195lbs?lol
Yes Rocky demolished him .All 179lbs of him!lol
And 19 of those were actually heavyweights! lol
The rest were lightweights, welters, middles ,super middles, and 15 were lhvys.
NB The Ring 1951 Fighter Of The Year.
RAY ROBINSON !!!!!

 

I don't know why you can't grasp that both men, Liston and Marciano must fight his opposites opponents at the same time they did?
Liston beat Machen in his 31st fight.In his 31st fight Marciano was fighting
8-8-1 Keene Simmons!

 

Johnson beat;
Valdes
Charles
Mederos
Slade
Peaks
Whitehurst
Godoy
Henry
Moore
Satterfield
Gilliam
Bivins
His resume shits all over Mathews'!
Stop embarrassing yourself FFS!
One of my dogs could make a better argument than you are capable of!