Marciano v Tokyo James Douglas?

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  1. Bummy Davis

    Bummy Davis Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    You are an empty can and the empty can makes the most noise

    I have to laugh at your presumptions, you should only know

    Good thing for you that the Romans conquered you and occupied your country for 400 years because you would still be eating out of the same pot you **** in and in your case one of your Late Aunties has a likeness to a Roman soldier by the name of Marciano :lol: your Aunt Rocco
     
  2. janitor

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    It comes down to the fact that Lastarza was Marciano’s #1 contender, and on top of that he had lost a controversial decision to him previously.

    Taking the above two factors into consideration, I think that Marciano would have left himself open to criticism had he defended against anybody else.

    How many ranked contenders had Douglas beaten when Tyson fought him incidentally?
     
  3. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    Oh Dear ! Wrong again
    It's empty vessels make the most noise, not cans:patsch

    The Romans didn't conquer me ,or my descendants , my Father's family came for Germany,[ originally called Raeder]

    My Father's ancestors wiped out 3 legions in the Teutoberg Forest
    My Mother's family from Denmark ,name Haggar.

    It took the Romans 30 years to conquer Britain and they never managed to subdue it all then,hence Hadrian's wall.

    I don't have presumptions about you, you are too insignificant ,if you were worth two bob, you would be jumping around telling me.

    Keep it coming.:bbb
     
  4. Seamus

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    This continual denial that a world class 230 pounder has little or no advantage over a similarly classed 185 pounder just leaves me shaking my head.... It's the elephant in the room that is only addressed with the fully absurd Dunkhorst Arugment, which is in itself a white flag of denial by the Classicist.
     
  5. Bummy Davis

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    :good
     
  6. The Mongoose

    The Mongoose I honor my bets banned

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    I don't want to.

    Well, Maricano coming at him non-stop probably had something to do with that.

    I think you are misusing the term "Geriatric"

    It gave him a successful all time great career when most heavyweights were washed up.

    Douglas' 12 inch wing span advantage and likely 5-6 inches in height didn't really do him any good when Tyson suckered him into an uppercut in the 8th round. So...

    Walcott is an all time great heavyweight, Douglas will go down for one inspired effort against a man so ill prepared he was using his rubbers to ice himself.
     
  7. Seamus

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    He essentially retired after that fight. Did he retire at his peak? Or was he washed up and it was time to quit?

    Yes, Tyson got to him once. But he needed to get to him more times than that to win. Douglas didn't allow him to do that. Do you think Marciano was quicker getting in range and hit and quicker to throw than Tyson?


    Was Walcott an ATG the day he faced Marciano? Again, did he retire in ATG form or did that change over night?

    And again, the question does not regard a comparison of resumes. It regards the abilities of a fighter on one, inspired night.
     
  8. Unforgiven

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    :dealAnyone who can beat Mike "The Giant" White should be able to beat Rocky "The Midget" Marciano.




    ....... oh, wait. :gsg
     
  9. Unforgiven

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    Pokémon Douglas iz da shizzle
     
  10. The Mongoose

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    Only Jersey Joe knows for sure.

    Marciano had the condition to keep moving for an entire fight and keep Douglas off balance with constant movement and feints, he had Goldman in his corner to instruct him on openings and make adjustments as he did against Louis, and a great cut man to keep him from going blind.

    First fight, possibly, it is said to be one of his greatest performances. If we are talking the second Marciano fight, no, it is said to be one of his worst.
     
  11. Foxy 01

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    It most certainly is ludicrous. The Douglas who got bored and quit against Tucker would have disposed of Marciano by the 10th round, never mind the one that battered Tyson in Tokyo. As for the nonsense excuses by Tyson fanboys regarding condoms full of water, that is pure bollox. If his corner men had fed him ice cream and cigars when he was knocking over bums leading up to the Douglas fight they'd be screaming it was a revolutionary tactic to ensure success.

    Face it he got out fought, out punched, and out classed by a guy who on the night didn't give a fvck about him or his reputation, and that is exactly what would happen to the smaller, weaker, slower, and less powerful punching Marciano.
     
  12. Unforgiven

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    Karaoke Douglas holds every conceivable advantage over Rocco Marchegiano.
    But it's not over until the fat lady sings.
     
  13. Foxy 01

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    Bummy.

    We have all heard ducks fart before. In Britain if someone continually tells you how wealthy, wonderful, they are and live an enviable lifestyle, we just ignore the fvckwits, particularly if they are **** kickers from the sticks.

    It is only if and when dozens of other folks tell you that that person is what they claim to be, that you MIGHT take notice.
     
  14. Unforgiven

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    Tōjō Douglas destroys Rocky "Racoon" Marconi
     
  15. Unforgiven

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    The only 187 pound heavyweight in history who could truly trouble Tōgō Douglas would be Toledo Dempsey, and even then I'd expect Tōgō to torpedo Toledo with his JAB ©.

    Douglas had the best JAB © in history, and an 84 inch REACH™.
    Dempsey of course had Dancer's Legs® .