Marciano versus Tyson. Who Would Win?

Marciano was a Roman Warrior his Balls and Heart were bigger than Tyson. Tyson comes out strong and quick but Marciano opens up and Tyson feels the Rocks power, Tyson takes the lead and is ahead going into round 8 but Marciano gets stronger and Mike is starting to fizzle, he goes down and gets up but falls again and is counted simular to the way he did not get up vs Holyfield, Williams and McBride....Marciano picks up the pace and he starts to bounce Mike around the way he did to Archie Moore and Mike decides he had enough

 

I see it that way also

 

This is prime for prime, and a prime Tyson had no problem fighting his heart out until the final bell. The "take him to deeper waters" strategy works for an older Tyson, but not a prime, focused one.

As for Tyson losing to Holyfield the Cruiserweight as some sort of evidence, Evander was 6'3" and 215 pounds of muscle. Just a liiiiitle bit different than 5'10" Rocky...

 

Holyfield was what, 6'1 1/2 - 6'2? Marciano was listed as 5'11? So let's not get carried away. There's a big size discrepancy no doubt. Style-wise with Mike's speed, size, and power would pose enormous troubles for Rocky. I agree though. Rocky winning is a huge longshot.

 

I love Marciano, and I think he could bulk a bit and still retain a massive stamina advantage.

But it wouldn't matter. Tyson is bigger, hits harder, faster, better defense, more punches in the arsenal and better combos. Head to head, its just a bad match up for the Rock.

 

I have to disagree. Ok marciano looks like “just a brawler” but there was more to him as those he beat found out. He was subtle, feinted for openings, drew guys into an exchange at the distance that suited rocky. He could use decoys and counters. Marciano would break up the rhythm his opponent needed to function with his uncoordinated yet balanced footing. He smothered and mauled inside instinctively - even when hurt. marciano stayed calm in battle.
I would agree with you if rock was just a regular brawler but regular brawlers cant do all of this at the same time in the heat of battle. strategy never went out of the window (however crude a slugfest a marcinao fight could look) he ALWAYS knew what he was doing - and it worked against outstanding boxers. This is not to mention the raw, concussive, two handed power, durability and physical strength and stamina that came with all of this.

marcianos awkwardness would frustrate Tyson who was also clueless inside. once frustrated inside Tyson would often get distracted with trying to be dirty like putting on intentional, crazy forearms, butts and arm locks. when Tyson went down that road his focus went. Marciano could be dirty too but when he did it was whilst being “conveniently clumsy” -he would do it while in the process of working legally within the rules and therefore still focused on the job in hand. He never stopped what he was doing and started fouling. without a clear head Tyson could be easy meat for one track, durable, inside pressure mauler like marciano. who was unflappable.
Forget Tysons speed and explosiveness marciano had the better temperament and could effectively neutralise these assets whilst dictating the pace, distance and pattern of a fight.

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In addition to whats already been said (all very good points from both sides - other than the obvious 2 petethepr1ck & his friend KenNob@lls) - Tyson was a great combination puncher but nobody ever effectively hit Marciano with any combinations - I've gone through all the films I have on him and nobody ever managed to string more than a couple of punchers at a time together on Marciano (which kind of dispells the usual Marciano had no defense line aswell) - I have never seen anyone manage to actually get a combination off against Marciano - he made it difficult to really get at him whatever was happening in the fight - plus Tyson only really used great combinations when he had taller guys in front of him who were continually going back - i think he'd find it more unusual fighting someone of a similar height and stature to him than Marciano would the other way.

 

:goodexactly what I have always felt. Louis, charles, moore all great at combinations were lucky to land more than single shots. as soon as rock was tagged he bent low, he knew he was reaching distance and always broke up the flow of the other guy by interupting a combination with his own shots or smothering forward and mauling. he was a nightmare. nobody could read his weird moves, there was no patern to marcianos work. when he bent low nobody knew what hand he used on the way up.

 

Tyson KO3 Marciano

 

Yeah well Prime-Tyson never really got hit with combinations in his prime either so

 

This is pretty much self-indictment as a racist on your part as well as a demonstration of a woefull lack of knowledge of and respect for the sport of boxing.

 

All very good points but not obvious to everyone....Marciano is a bad mix for Tyson....Tyson was a good giver but folded his tent when he started to get hit.

 

atsch

 

Are you completely braindead TommyGun?? :huh:huh Did you completely miss my point (you know - in that I was countering the claim that Tyson great combination punching would prove decisive???) The point was it didn't matter that Tyson was able to hammer a bunch of stand up straight back off ham n eggers with rapid combos because Rocky just wouldn't ever allow himself to be ripped with combos - he never did by anyone else - including guys who were much smarter fighters than Tyson - go back to sleep Tommy atsch