Marciano versus Tyson. Who Would Win?

That's the most commonly used foolish way of looking at things. I can do the same with Marciano. If the tiny, ancient, and not even 200 pound Walcott and Archie Moore can put Marciano on his ass than Tyson surely would as well.

This logic actually makes more sense than you comparing what guys like Tony Tucker did to what Marciano would do. Last I checked Marciano wasn't 6'5 and intent on merely surviving.

 

Of course they would. but considering marciano's crouch and awkwardness they wouldn't be as dangerous as they would normally be against another opponent.

What's your problem again? I was never asleep you *******. He wouldn't even be able to hit Tyson with many if any clean shots then because of Tysons defense and speed. Is that better? yes marciano does throw combinations but SLOW combinations. the point is your just contridicting yourself you said Tyson wouldnt be able to hit marciano with combos neither would rocky with even many shots to begin with.

 

you're the one who is making yourself look a little foolish labelling two of the greatest fighters of all time in arguably their finest hours as merely tiny, anchient, and not even 200 pound - I think the point is the likes of Ferguson, Tucker, Smith etc etc were not 10% the fighters Walcott & Moore were - I don't think Jesse Ferguson will be going into the IBHOF anytime soon do you?

PS - maybe you should stick to "TOP TRUMPS" - 'yeah! I've got Rocky Marciano: 5'10 1/4"!!' 'Sorry you lose I have Tony Tucker 6'5"!!

 

You entirely missed my point.

 

Oh yeah see what you mean :good forget the fact the Marciano never had any problem hitting anyone in his entire career including some of the most defensively gifted and experienced artists in heavyweight title fight history - and had probably one of the highest punch out put rates and connect rates in history - that would all change for this one fight right - jesus man not being funny (so less of the *******) but lets keep to reality some of the things people come out with at times is like "the sky is blue"..... "no its not its green with red spots!!" But seriously not being funny so lets keep this as a bit of banter hey?

 

apologies what was the point then?? Sorry to be slow on the uptake - maybe you'll have to give me a BitMoore to go on MuchMoore

 

Haha I was just taking a swipe at his point of since Tucker, Smith, etc lasted rounds than obviously Marciano would. It just doesn't work like that, styles make fights.

 

but marciano was a beter heavyweight than tucker. rocky was also a beter heavyweight than ferguson. I notice you did not use him as a comparison. my point is most fans agree geting past 5 rounds or so its rockys fight. if jesse gets past 5 why not rocky?

surly The most comonly foolish way of looking at things is "old v new= new wins" and "big v small =big wins".

 

Oh right it's MuchMoore clearer now MuchMoore - yeah see what you're saying styles definately make fights..... BUT TRUE GREATNESS OVERCOMES :happy

 

So what? Neither did Tyson!! Especially if you consider Rocky's comp it's not really a big feat that he was able to do this. haha yeah well guess what Tyson didn't have trouble hitting all his opponents in his prime, either. And Tyson has a better defense then everyone Rocky ever fought. I guarantee that.
It's not like rocky was facing the greats when he had such a high punch output and landing output- He never faced great opponents and that's why he went undefeated. Sure he fought the best around and even beat Louis, Charles, and Walcott, but all of these men were considerably faded when Rocky met them.
Tyson would make sure that Rocky's crude, wild, and slow punches wouldn't even glance him.

 

This sounds like a fairy tale tag-line.

 

I wouldn't agree here.

Tyson has a clear advantage in speed, but not in power or defence. Rocky had arguably power as good as Tyson, and I've already stated why I believe his defence is on a par with Tyson's.

And I feel that Rocky's chin was superior to Tysons. In addition, he was in overall better shape and had better stamina.

Again, Louis' power is arguably as good as Tyson's. Admittedly, he was well past his prime when he faced Marciano and I would pick prime Louis over prime Marciano.

Again, as you say, I see this as a significant exaggeration. One is nearly impossible, the other is a distinct possibility.

I would also pick 1973 Foreman over Rocky. But I would also pick him over Tyson.



All in all, I agree that on paper, Tyson brings more to the fight in terms of tools. But not enough to outright clinch the deal.

The very important intangibles of heart and mental toughness would narrow the gap. I feel Tyson needs to win this in the first half of the fight. If it goes past six, Tyson probably loses.

And lesser fighters than Marciano survived the first six. They just didn't have the stamina or will to win to take advantage in the way I feel Marciano would.


I admit I could be wrong. We'll never know with certainty.

 

guys r on drugs if you think Marciano would beat Tyson . He was too small and his style is made for Mike in every way.

 

tyson by brutal 4th rd ko

 

are you on drugs?? yeah Ez, Walcott and Moore were all faded weren't they - apart from Ez never put up such a hard fight in his entire career, Walcott himself said he never felt better in his whole career (until he got nailed), and Moore has always quoted his fight against Rocky as one of his best of his career?? PS Tyson was quick no doubt and moved his head well but he wasn't one iota the defensive fighter either of those three were - Mike looked mightily impressive because most of his opponents were a bunch of alphabet boy stiffs who were already or on their way to becoming junkies.