Marciano versus Tyson. Who Would Win?

I think we should judge fighters by the sum of their parts and not isolated fragments tailored to make an incomplete point? A prime Tyson would decisively defeat any version of Charles, Walcott or Moore.

First of all the Charles Rocky fought had badly faded legs which were a huge part of his arsenal in his prime. By the time he fought Marciano he got hit often. Walcott was still explosive, tricky and very smart but he fought in spurts because at 38 that's what he could do , much like Hopkins today. Moore ws a master at maximizing his skills, at timing, at just about everything but he was also not the man he needed to be to survive Rocky. As far as your disrespect for Trevor Berbick, Tony Tucker, Tyrell Briggs, Pinklon Thomas Michael Spinks or the others, it speaks for itself. I guess they were not good enough to share a ring with Rex Layne, LaStarza or Cockell.

 

Classic Exaggeration Hegrant uses to describe Marciano's opposition. Charles legs were fine the first 6 rounds, then he got broken down which caused him to slow down. I'll tell ya, Charles was very difficult to beat that night June 1954.

Fought in spurts? it sure didn't look that way to me, or any normal fan watching the fight.


You always have to tear down Marciano's opposition to make a point against him? your no historian.

 

Walcott was like 38 years old. Yeah he could still fight very well but he was still not as great as Tyson, neither was Ezzard charles, or Moore.
alphabet boy stiffs? You mean all the guys that rocky fought? You're just arrogant if you think that those 3 men would be able to compete with Tyson. They were old and not very great fighters at that point.

 

I like Tyson by TKO 6 over Marciano. Tyson's superior speed/technichque and combinations will allow him to outslug Marciano, but tyson will be smart enough to keep Marciano at mid range. I see tyson flooring rocky 3x in the first, but rocky gets up snortng like a bull and takes the fight to tyson working inside landing some heavy blows which makes tyson back up and earn his respect. One short right hand in particular buckles tyson's knees. From here, I see tyson boxing Marciano rather than trading on the inside. Tyson continue to fire some heavy artillerly though some wicked combinations at midrange, and a few big uppercuts with rocky weaving and ducking in his crouch. tyson will be doing his best to prevent rocky from closing the gap, where he is better at fighting than tyson. Marciano was always susceptible to those short fast precise punches, and tyson had plenty of them. Marciano takes some heavy punishment in rounds 4 and 5 before he is trapped on the ropes and battered until the ref stops the fight to prevent rocky from taking more punishment. Tyson can't believe how tough Marciano is to keep down.

Tyson TKO 6

 

They were all still great fighters. That is undeniable. Watch the films, they had an advanced skillset beyond any contender out there. All 3 men were going through the young studs like hot knife through butter, except one young buck...Marciano. All 3 men showed up in terrific shape too.

 

i'm not saying that tyson has a great chin (one can have a legitimate argument for that)...but tyson's chin is clearly more PROVEN and battle tested...i gotta go with the facts. tyson's chin stood up to monster punches from razor ruddock (head snaps back in round 6) and lennox lewis. one can argue that tyson never recovered with lewis or that he got ko's more than a handful times...i think they had less to do with chin. tyson didn't have the conditioning and activity to come right back after a big punch with lennox as he did several times in the 80s and 90s. he fought poorly against douglas and holyfield and allowed them to keep hammering at his chin...even if your chin is very good...if you're getting outboxed, outlanded, and unable to stop the guy from clobbering you...your chin will give up. a granite chin left unprotected or unable to be defended due to overmatched fighting <<< an ok chin that is well defended and the opponent is unable to provide enough resistance. chin alone does not determine if someone gets knocked out unless you are the extreme examples like tex cobb or george chuvalo.

 

i forgot to add...i'm not sure if stamina is going to be an issue for a brutal war that i doubt will go past 6 rounds...

 

And Tyson is a better heavyweight than Roland LaStarza who nearly beat Rocky.

That logic just doesn't work.

 

Marciano cannot take Tyson's early round battering. Mike hard and fast combos are too much for Marciano. And Marciano weighing only 186 lbs and Tyson weighing 220 lbs is a big difference. I don't see Rocky's chin withstanding Tyson's onslaught.

 

Walcott at 38 is like the Hopkins of now. Haaa!

 

Walcott at 38 is like the hopkins at 38(An example being the version of who Trinidad/Eastman/De La Hoya). But now? Hopkins is like wut 45?

 

no it wouldn't. it'd be a very one sided fight ending with holyfield brutally knocking out ruddock. it wouldn't even be as competitive as ruddock tyson. holyfield was a heavy handed counter puncher...way too much for a one dimension one armed robot

 

Is there 2 Holyfield's?? The one I've been watching all these years must have been an imposter coz he damn sure wasn't heavy handed :huh that was his main problem that his punches even when he was getting his whole body into them tended to kind of bounce off his opponents? But agreed I think Holy would've out worked Ruddock over the 12 rounds - might have to suck it up on a few occassions though coz Ruddock could bang :good

 

tyson too big too fast and too powerful if a 37 year old walcott could outbox marciano im sure as hell peak tyson would a 13 stone heavyweight is far too small to beat tyson remember what peak tyson done to a blown up light heavy micheal spinks .