I watched a bit of ESPN classic Marathon on Rocky Marciano. The first Charles fight was a classic. Rounds 1,4, 6, 10, and 15 were shown. Charles start out hot, and even shakes Marciano up in rounds 1 and 4. Had Charles opted to stick a move a bit more, the fight might have gone his way. Rocky was cut ealry, and pawing at times at it. However, as it was Charles pretty much stood toe to toe with the Rock, beating him to the punch and scoring more cleanly, but lacking the big punch to turn the tides into his favor. Marciano turns the tides in round 6, though Charles makes a rally. In round 10 and 15, Marciano's will to win and work rate is amazing. He just keeps loading up and throwing punches. Charles at times lands clean uppercuts and counter punchers ( Which Rocky is open to ), but just does not have the reserves left to fight back as often. There were no knockdowns. Charles took many punches. I guess chins can be funny. Charles took many bombs from Marciano without going down in this fight, but went down in other fights from lesser punchers. Comments from Bert Sugar: Charles was the 2nd best heavy at the time, but Sugar says really wasn't anyone else out there. Sugar did not see a lot of skill from Marciano, but admires his stamina. He calls Marciano the Nolan Ryan of the heavyweights. All fastballs throw hard, but not much variety or accuracy. Props are given to Charles for going the distance. Sugar also says, Rocky loved to eat and his trainer Goldman had to take food away from him during camp! Amazing since Rocky was in tiptop shape for this fight. Is the full 15 out there? This was one heck of a fight.
Disagree, charles wasnt standing toe to toe......he was counterpunching and moving. notice the overhand right charles makes marciano miss in round 4, charles steps back and lands a huge counter right hand flush. charles was confined to stand toe to toe late in the fight cause marciano wore him down. I agree a classic fight though Nope
Charles stood right in front of Marciano, and traded from round 1 to finish. He did not use his height, reach, skills, or footwork advantage at all early in the fight when he was in the lead. What fight were you watching? If Charles boxed and moved a more often, the outcome could have been different.
what fight were u watching? in rounds 1 and 4, charles can be seen circling marciano displaying tremendous COUNTERPUNCHING and slick shoulder rolls. not until round 10 did charles get worn down and forced to fight toe to toe.
Now this is funny. Wrong, they exchage plenty. Charles is not keeping away from Maricnao and piling up points, he is mixing it up. In fact, Chalres, who was not a big puncher at heavy, shakes Marciano up, not once but twice in the rounds shown on ESPN CLassic. How about Marciano's prespective on one of his fights with Charles? Rocky says, " He looks like he ( Chalres ) is going to stay close. I don't like that! " Very amusing stuff SuzieQ. Sure you know more than I do on boxing. How about watching a bit of the action? [url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l4_qPmEqZ9U[/url]
I guess all the step back rolling away counter right hands charles nailed marciano with in rounds 1 and 4 were "toe to toe" hail mary exchanges atsch atsch atsch
Marciano was easy to hit in this fight, up close with upper cuts, or from out fighting. It is easy to see Chalres was in there brawl more than run. Laughing with silly icons won't change the truth.
So essentially without beating around the bush, you made this thread in order to put down and once again degrade rocky marciano. A feeble attempt at making it into a real thread, but we all know the real truth now why u made this thread. A big jack dempsey fan in disguise.
This is a thread about a great fight. I start these type of threads from time to time. In great fights, both fighters have their moments. I described the action as it went down. Don't be so sulky.
Does anyone add that Charles was shopworn and past his prime, losing four previous fights in the two years since he had lost his title. In addition, he really was a blown up light heavyweight with a ton of mileage on him ... That being established, it was a great, grueling fight ...
Charles' last stand. One of boxings really gallant performances really. Marciano proved he was an ATG 15 round fighter, which is IMO, one of the prime criteria of what a great figher should be.
Does anyone add that Charles was shopworn and past his prime, losing four previous fights in the two years since he had lost his title. In addition, he really was a blown up light heavyweight with a ton of mileage on him ... That being established, it was a great, grueling fight ...
Sorry about the repost ... How does the Charles fight prove Marciano was one of the all time great fifteen round fighters ? Doesn't the opponent matter ? I say Frazier beating Ali in Super Fight 1 was a much greater 15 round performance.