Marciano vs Dempsey

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by DaveTheWave, Jul 10, 2007.


  1. DaveTheWave

    DaveTheWave Man Extraordinaire Full Member

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    It's probably been done and done again, but I'm new here so humor me. Who's it gonna be over 15? Either guy could knock the other down early, both have big power, both come foreward, one cuts real easy... Dempsey might get there faster, but The Rock hit plenty hard- I go back and forth on this one, so I'm just curious to see the input from all you experts.
     
  2. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    I pick Dempsey to win this one.

    I think these guys are both going to be doing what they always do and I pick Dempsey to shade it for accuracy and therefore chances.

    Dempsey has no rythym to his approach, so Marciano really would be doing what he seems to be most celebrated for doing - hitting arms, gloves etc., for much of the time.

    Dempsey will KO Rocky before Rocky can get to Dempsey I think.
     
  3. Joe E

    Joe E Well-Known Member Full Member

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    dempsey liked moving forward and that was marcianos' game.the rock would get cut[surprise]but cuts never bothered marciano.jack had better foot work and was a better boxer but so were walcott,lastarza,and charles.i think marciano out muscles dempsey over 15 and takes a close decision.
     
  4. Jack Dempsey

    Jack Dempsey Legend Full Member

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    I see this as a pick 'em fight, but I could see cuts being a factor in this and Dempsey has the upper hand in that repsect
     
  5. Duodenum

    Duodenum Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Virtually everybody who personally eyewitnessed both Jack and Rocky in their fighting primes picked Dempsey in a hypothetical matchup. The Rock generally had to get set to deliver his bombs, in a pugilistic representation of trench warefare. Jack was much more of a mobile blitzkrieg specialist. Rocky boxed out of a crouch and slow advance, while Dempsey employed a moving crouch, continually bouncing on his toes with knees also bent, while at his peak. The right uppercut Jack kayoed Firpo with was quite the rocket launcher, while he certainly also had a faster and harder hook than the one Jersey Joe dropped Rocky with.

    As tough as the Rock was, he might still be on his feet late, when the referee intercedes to save Marciano from further punishment. When Rocky dethroned Walcott, if that was the Dempsey of Toledo in there with Marciano instead, Jack might have forced to match to a halt by the point in the bout where Rocky won the title. Because of his heart and ruggedness, I'll grant Marciano the benefit of a doubt here.

    Dempsey TKO (RSC) 14 Marciano
     
  6. FlatNose

    FlatNose Boxing Addict Full Member

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    This would be a battle of attrition.Dempsey was no fancy dan.In a long , drawn out slugfest, the sturdier, more durable Marciano takes a close decision, but no one recognizes him after Dempsey re arranges his face.
     
  7. janitor

    janitor VIP Member Full Member

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    This is one of the few fights that I am sincerely glad that the timelines never permited.

    One or both of the participants would get hurt badly and they would likley both be damaged goods afterwards.
     
  8. Bad_Intentions

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  9. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    That Jack would drop him is almost a dead cert given the lesser punchers that put the Rock on his backside - you really don't think a guy like Dempsey would be able to put the finishing touces on a knockdown in, say, the 10th?
     
  10. Minotauro

    Minotauro Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Rocky late his cardio would make the difference also I believe he had a better chin. Marciano TKO 14.
     
  11. robert ungurean

    robert ungurean Богдан Philadelphia Full Member

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  12. RAMPAGE0017

    RAMPAGE0017 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Marciano would be too much of an animal for Dempsey.

    Marciano - 4th round KO.
     
  13. Ted Stickles

    Ted Stickles Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I think Rocky would take him late in the fight i dont know if Dempsey had the stamina to fight as long and hard as the Rock could( his cardio was incredible).......It would have been an all out war
     
  14. Bummy Davis

    Bummy Davis Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Rocky after 10 and a wonderfull war
     
  15. thunder06

    thunder06 Active Member Full Member

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    Jack Dempsey said " what everyone forgets is that Marciano can punch harder than any day heavyweight. I have scored my share of knockouts but more often than not my opponets had to be knocked down repeatedly. The same is true of Joe Louis. MARCIANO only needs one solid smash and it is all over.That is why i think he is the hardest hitting heavyweight ever."

    Dempsey was faster and busier and had a slightly better defense and boxing ability. Rocky was stronger and sturdier. Punching power? Rocky's seemed more consistent, but Jack could let unleash a murderous punch, too.

    Every good fighter that fought Rocky was able to go toe to toe with him and slug it out. Charles, Walcott and Moore traded with him successfully. Busted him up pretty bad actually, before they themselves were taken out. Even blubbery Don Cockell was able to fight head-on with Rocky, (although he was badly beaten) so I see no reason why Dempsey couldn't have a large measure of success there as well.

    I guess it would all come down to Rocky being able to withstand Jack's furious assault long enough for his own strength to come through to flatten the Manassa Mauler in the later rounds. That's usually how he did it. My guess is that he would in this fight as well, but I wouldn't bet on it. Not at all.

    I would however, pay for a ringside seat! Rocky by TKO in 10 or 11. :happy