Marciano vs Evander Holyfield

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  1. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    I think Holyfield beats Charles who had over 100 fights on his clock and was better as a light heavyweight.
     
  2. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    Its a valid point,which I was aware of, maybe it depends how much gravitas you put on amateur fights?
    Evander was dsq'd in the semi final but for that he may well have gone on to win the gold .
    His opponent Kevin Barry is Joseph Parker's trainer.
    "Holyfield was disqualified in his light heavyweight semifinal bout with Kevin Barry of New Zealand for hitting after the break.

    Near the end of the second round, with Barry grabbing him around the neck with his left arm, Holyfield pulled back and—just as Yugoslavian referee Gligorije Novicic yelled "Stop!"—slammed a right to the body and a left hook to the head. Barry crumbled to the canvas. He regained his feet, but was very wobbly. Novicic stopped the fight and disqualified Holyfield for hitting on the break. Holyfield, who was dominating the bout, said he didn't hear the referee.

    Because he was stopped by a head blow, Barry was medically ineligible to fight for 28 days. As a result, Anton Josipovic of Yugoslavia, who defeated Mustapha Moussa of Algeria in the other semifinal, was awarded the gold medal on a walkover."
    The U.S. filed a protest. The protest was based on three points:

    (1) The punch was started before the referee yelled "stop," thus making it a legal punch.
    (2) The noise level of the crowd was so high that it was doubtful whether Holyfield could have heard the referee at all.
    (3) Barry was in the process of being warned for holding when the incident occurred. And there was a possiblity that the warning would be cause for disqualifying Barry.
    The protest was rejected by the International Amateur Boxing Association. "There is no doubt in the minds of the protest committee," said Colonel Don Hull, the president of AIBA. "They reviewed the film and it is clear that there was a violation and that an illegal blow incapacitated. The referee enforced the rules."

    Loring Baker, head of the United States Amateur Boxing Federation, said the referee should have stopped the bout earlier because Barry was flagrantly holding. "Had the referee done his job properly, the fight would have been stopped before the foul occurred," Baker said.

    "Novicic blew it," said John Holaus, one of four American officials who worked the competition. "He was going from cautions to warnings and then back to cautions. It's against the rules. Once you issue a warning, you can't go back to cautions. I couldn't believe what I was seeing."
    Looks like neither Holyfield or Barry got a decent break.
     
  3. destruction

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    Marciano by unanimous decision. He breaks Holyfields heart. All the roids in the world couldnt see Roidyfield through this one
     
  4. Heisenberg

    Heisenberg @paulmillsfitness Full Member

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    Absolute war of the ages with Holyfield getting off the floor a couple of times to stop Marciano on facial damage around rounds 13 or 14
     
  5. Mendoza

    Mendoza Hrgovic = Next Heavyweight champion of the world. banned Full Member

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    Rocky was 8-4 as an amateur. Just 12 known fights.

    Holyfield should win on points, he was simply faster, longer and more skilled, and had a better chin than anyone Marciano fought, which would limit Marciano's ability to come from behind and win.

    It would be good one.
     
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