Marciano vs Foreman... What Can The Rock Do?

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  1. choklab

    choklab cocoon of horror Full Member

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    The thing they had in common was smaller reach than their opponent and having to come forward whilst being much shorter.

    Ruiz is closer to Marciano height and reach and joshua is closer to Foreman.

    In fact Ruiz only came up to joshuas collar bone. He probably overcame more of a size disadvantage than Rocky would.

    The weight of Ruiz is kind of a moot point. The guy is fat. And still it didnt stop him.
     
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  2. cuchulain

    cuchulain Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    He was FAT AND BIGGER.

    Jesus man, you really do have a problem with FACTS !

    I have watched you demonstrate this particular pathology over and over in your posts.

    "Naturarally" has nothing to do with the fact that when they fought, Ruiz was BIGGER, by a stone and a half, twenty one pounds bigger.

    When you're rabbiting on about some imaginary super heavyweight division, or banging on about a 247 lb fighter being bigger than a 268 lb fighter, you are betraying a lack of contact with reality.

    Time to get help.

    You need to be laying on a couch, talking to a man with a clipboard, so he can figure out where it all started to unravel.




    Boxing size divisions are based on WEIGHT, not HEIGHT.
    Otherwise, in your delusional reality, Demetrius Andrade would be bigger than David Tua.
     
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  3. choklab

    choklab cocoon of horror Full Member

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    Ruiz is short and fat. You disagree? Maybe you could ask somebody with a clipboard?

    yes and fat is historically not beneficially described as an advantage. "He had the advantage of rolls of fat" is not something people celebrate is it?
     
  4. Rainer

    Rainer Active Member Full Member

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    Fine comments!
     
  5. RulesMakeItInteresting

    RulesMakeItInteresting Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Drug tests can be beaten.
     
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  6. GOAT Primo Carnera

    GOAT Primo Carnera Well-Known Member Full Member

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    What is a generic healthy weight? Bodytypes differ among men.
    Is this about the military assessment you´ve posted a while ago?
     
  7. choklab

    choklab cocoon of horror Full Member

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    You don’t know what a healthy weight is? Ask a doctor.

    A healthy weight for height used to be the same for athletes as it is for everyone else.

    “Modern training” changed all of this. It was not achievable before.
     
  8. choklab

    choklab cocoon of horror Full Member

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    Of course.
     
  9. Rainer

    Rainer Active Member Full Member

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    How come so many fail them then?
     
  10. choklab

    choklab cocoon of horror Full Member

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    Because they miscalculate how long the stuff is in their system.
     
  11. HOUDINI

    HOUDINI Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Only a complete imbecile would use an obviously obese hwt as an example of today’s “superior” super hwts.

    Ruiz is obese. Trim him down to the fat % of a Ali, Marciano or Louis and you would have a Joe Frazier size fighter.

    Fat weight is unproductive weight. You will see this when Ruiz is pushed hard and taken into the later rounds.

    All this being said Ruiz has skills. I hope he gets his act together physically so his ability is not short changed long term.
     
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  12. cuchulain

    cuchulain Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Yes, of course I disagree. He is most decidedly NOT short. At 6' 2" he is in the 96th percentile of American male height. That means he is taller than 19 out of every 20 males in the US. Definitely not short. But again, facts don't seem to have much influence on your thinking.


    Again, irrelevant red herrings unrelated to the question of his size.

    Regardless of his body composition, he is BIGGER in boxing terms, than AJ.

    He himself stated that he wanted to be heavier going into the bout with AJ, therefore, unlike yourself, must have thought it would confer an advantage on him.

    Bottom line here, Ruiz was BIGGER than AJ.
     
  13. Glass City Cobra

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    In typical fashion you ignore what a dozen people can see plain as day. Ruiz fought nothing like Rocky and was heavier than his opponent so it's a terrible example. If you can find a better one go for it but i Will ignore any more of your idiotic comparisons.
     
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  14. choklab

    choklab cocoon of horror Full Member

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    This is a great post. Something I think really applies to @Glass City Cobra and @cuchulain
     
  15. choklab

    choklab cocoon of horror Full Member

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    Nobody thinks Ruiz is 6’2”. That’s laughable.