Marciano vs Foreman

Obviously Foreman, but i think the better question is how long Marciano would last, because i personally couldn't see it going past 3. A style mismatch at its best. Also, i don't think it was his stamina that got him in his fight with Jimmy young. In his biography, he stated that he could have gotten Young out when he had him hurt, but wanted to prove to the media that he could fight with good stamina for 15 rounds.

 

I cannot possibly imagine Marciano hanging in there with Foreman for too long. Foreman was too big and too powerful for the small Marciano. Marciano would have stood right in front of Foreman waiting to be hit.

 

I believe it was cus D'Amato who once said " no swarmer would ever beat Foreman ", and I could be wrong, but I think he also felt that it included his own man Tyson.. If Cus had doubts about a fighter of Marciano's calibur beating Foreman, then I think it basically speaks for itself. Rarely did D'Amato pick modern fighters to beat ones of the old school, which is why I give his testimony merit.

I'm not going to regurgitate the same old crap about size, strength, ethnicity,modern training vs old, etc. I'm merely going to stick to a styles argument here. Foreman utterly demolished another all time great swarmer who I think may have been a tad better than Marciano. He also destroyed a handful of other fighters who were not necessarily great, but possesed similar attributes. Basically, anyone who lowered their center of gravity and walked in with a crouching stance, got busted up by Foreman. George may not have had the legacy that Rocky had, but Legacies often mean little in head to head matchups........

 

Foreman by KO...UNLESS by some sort of miracle George runs out of gas before getting the Rock outta there and Marciano manages to come back and KO him.

 

Frazier was defintley not stronger nor more powerful than rocky marciano. in fact frazier is among one of the more mediocre champions in terms of strength, while rocky is in 1st teir of champions in terms of strength, probably his best attribute even according to a big marciano critic I know. Take note also by 1972 frazier was fat, take a look at his midsection.

 

No this was not a robbery. Lowry lost the last 6 rounds of the fight, Rocky according to Sam Silverman the Promoter "Gave lowry a bad body beating", lowry simply did not do enough to win, rocky was far more active down the stretch

close fight, the knockdown gave rocky the edge. you have never seen the film, what makes you think this was a robbery?

I have never EVER heard anyone claim charles won the first marciano fight. In fact it was a very clear unanimous decision win for rocky. I would love for you to find ONE source that claims ezzard won the fight(not including charles himself)....

 

you have the right to think joe frazier was better than rocky marciano peak for peak. But no way does any credible arguement hold true that the fat overweight broken down 1972 version of joe frazier was as good as rocky marciano.

 

Marciano will have knocked him all over the ring.

 

Race is an interesting question in boxing... Didn't Ali have an Irish grandparent? Louis was part native American, I believe Dempsey was too... I don't really think it's as simple as people try to make out.

 

btw, I like foreman by early TKO in this one, but if rock makes it past 5...foreman is toast.

 

Don't forget the point deduction on Marciano as well. Not to mention the fact that Marciano was spending much of his time at church, praying for Vingo, instead of training as hard as he normally did. The rematch between Roland and Rocky was no fluke.

 

I am always hesentant to pick the older smaller heaveyweights who would today be cruserweights over the bigger, faster and stronger heavyweights of more modern times. the problem I have with Foreman who is among if not is the hardest puncher of all heavyweights is that he kept his hands too low. I think in this one both Foreman and Marciano are going to get hit. I beleve that Foreman has the power to send Marciano to the canvas, but Marcino has proven to be pretty reslent. Foreman's low gaurd will allow Marciano to land punches on him. The question becomes dose Marciano have enough power to send the bigger Foreman to the canvas? If he can't this is an easy win for Foreman. If he can I think this would be an intresting match up.

 

Foreman via KO.

Marcianos style plays straight into Foremans hands. He tries to come in and Foremans uppercuts and bombs would put him away within 4. If Marciano can survive past 8 then he has a chance but bob and weavers don't beat Foreman.

 

Well, here's my take.

I think, '68-'71 Frazier, with a referee who don't brook no shove-offs, is only about 2-to-1 underdog against Foreman. I have a hunch -- just a hunch -- that Rocky is a bit more durable that Frazier; also, a hunch that Rocky's a little harder to reach with an uppercut (stance not quite as squared as Joe's). So, I like Rocky's chances a bit better than Joe's. Still a very tough fight, though. With a strict referee, it's anywhere from 50-50 to 60-40 Foreman, tops; lenient referee, it's looking better for Foreman.
This fight will probably end in a gruesome manner, no matter who wins.