Marciano vs Langford

Rocky was made to order for Langford as was Dempsey ... Everyone raves about Rocky's chin and it was terrific buty alltime great ? Who were the three best punchers he ever fought? I say Langford knocks him out in five or six ...

 

What a nasty,vicious, knockdown, drag out fight...It's not a question of who wins...it's who survives!

 

Sometimes I get the feeling Langford would beat Dempsey, Louis, or Marciano.

Sam was a skilled brawler with a rock for a chin, great stamina, and very strong inside and out. I wish there was more film on him. The known films on Langford are Flynn, Hauge, Lang, and Jeanette.

Sam looks great in the Lang film, and pretty good in the Flynn film. He destroys Hauge. Have not seen the Jeanette film, but only a select lucky few have.

 

Is there film of the Hague fight? I haven't heard of it myself.

 

Yes, there is.

 

I am more impressed by footage of Langford than I am of any of the old time fighters. Langford was boxing's stylistic evolution in fast forward. I can only imagine how slick Langford would have been in the 50's.

Langford would be too slick for Marciano to mount any kind of sustained offense against.

Langford by Dec

 

I came up with an idea while back. Many of the old time films run too fast or too slow. Poster Upwithevil, who is pretty good with computers/ video equipment took my advice and timed each round at 3 minutes, then made the action either speed up or slow down to fit inside a normal round. While it wasn't perfect, Langford looked very good at a normal speed.

On the films I have seen Langford's lone weakness seems to be vs an outside jabber due to Sam's average defense, though Sam hardly cared. He worked his way in, cut off the ring, then delivered a thunderous attack with speed and accuracy.

 

I had not idea there was Jeanette or Hague footage ... are you sure of that ? There must be a way to see it if it exists ...

 

What's funny? Langford is the P4P greatest fighter of all time and at his best he weighed only slightly less than Marciano. Langford's chin was proven rock hard at heavyweight, probably better than any of Marciano's opponents, maybe better than Marciano's. The argument is usually that Marciano will wear down a more skillful opponent due to his work rate and stamina, but Langford had the stamina and toughness to go 20 rounds against all time great opposition more than once. Langford was smarter, faster more skillful, a better puncher, a better boxer and I think he has a stylistic advantage.

 

One thing Marciano is not is rangier than Langford!!!!

 

Yes, I am sure they exist. They are rare fight films.

 

[FONT=&quot] Exactly, and I have been saying this for years. From 11-1906 to 05-1917, Langford had something like 100 fights ( too lazy to count right now ) at heavyweight and was not stopped. This record will never be broken.

Langford fought Wills, and McVey many times, and we all know his style wasn't Gene Tunney's. Langford was in there to fight. I do not think Marciano, even if he hit a little harder than Wills or McVey if likely to stop Langford.

In truth it took Rocky on average a shade over 9 rounds to win his title matches, and this includes a first round quit job by Walcott who in my book opted not to get up, then looked fine at " 11 ".

Most of the Ko's Rocky got were when the other guy gassed, or really did not have the best chin. Langford was a compact study man, with the stamina of a marathon runner. If Rocky wins here, I say the odds are for a decision over a KO. On the topic of great heavyweight chins, Langford belongs in there with Jeffries, Chavalo, Cobb, and V Klitschko.

I wish there was more on Langford for me to see.

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How is Marciano not rangier? He has 6inches on height on Langford, how would this not be a factor?

I think Rocky's a better boxer, because he's underrated in this aspect, the way he rolls punches and times his own, his accuracy, and he did all this against the very best opposition

Langford looks to be a bit too much of a brawler on film and the film being sped up with missing frames makes him look better than he really is

 

Marciano is not rangier than Langford??

 

Long range jabbing was how Fulton beat Sam ,Gunboat Smith once too ,but Langford was having problems with his sight by then ,Fulton cut his eyes to peices.