Marciano vs. Norton

Knocking out Harry Matthews with one punch is not an accomplishment.

Hammering Don Cockell for 11 rounds and relying on the ref to save the man is not an impressive display of one-punch power. That fight if any any reveals the myth of Rocky's vaunted punching power. It wasn't like Cockell was a Jake LaMotta. Nowhere close.

Lee Savold had to be saved. Marciano couldn't put him away. I could keep going. We all could - if we are honest with ourselves.

Marciano did not have one-punch power. He never did. He was a swarmer. He needed to beat people up. He wouldn't have a chance to do this against Norton.

Don't confuse Marciano with a Foreman or a Shavers. Different type of punching power. Indeed, different size fighter. Marciano, 5'10" 185 lbs looks great against similarly small heavyweights. He isn't having success against big powerful heavyweights like Norton.

Different era. Different abilities. Different levels.

 

barring a victory by cut. Norton likes to mix it up a little too much. Rocky would definatly catch Ken early & put him away. But Marciano would KNOW he was in a fight! All action while it lasts.

 

Tell that to Joe Walcott, Rocky almost tore the poor guys head off!

 

Quarry was a fat way out of shape shot fighter when he fought norton, i believe he also took the fight on one weeks notice....207lb he looked soft as hell. that beating he took from frazier in 74 really took alot out of him.

 

Tell that to Rex Layne and Jersey Joe Walcott.

Rex Layne? 34-1 22 year old top contender who took bob satterfields best punches. One Right hand from rocky knocked Layne out cold, and sheered his front teeth off at the nubs.

Jersey Joe Walcott, heavyweight champion, fought a long list of heavyweight punchers 1944-1953 and only ATG louis had knocked him out prior....marciano did the job with one right hand.

 

For those that question Laynes chin

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qKUlBPErrn0

 

No? Harry Kid was 81-3 and had never been down for the 10 count before in his whole career. just two short left hooks did the trick. I think that is an accomplishment.


Joe Louis was 6'2 214lb, he had not been down once since his comeback, and not been knocked out in 12 years and had 35lb advantage on Rock, and Rock knocked him out cold.

 

That was the fifth time Walcott had been knocked out. It wasn't a feat. Walcott was tricky and that allowed him to survive. But caught cleanly, he could be taken out. Six times he couldn't beat the count. Bad metric for pumping up Rocky.

 

And he was a goner. People felt sorry for Louis at that point. So what if Rocky knocked him out? How many times was Louis down anyway? Hell, Max Schmeling knocked out Louis in his prime. Bad example.

Harry Matthews wasn't a real heavyweight. Good Lord, he only weighed 179 for the Marciano fight! Marciano weighed in at one of his all-time highs, over 187 lbs. In his loss to Don Cockell, Matthews was dropped three times. Yeah, he was pretty solid at light heavyweight. Not at heavyweight. We can say the same about Foster (and he was a hell of a lot better than Matthews). Does it blow your mind that Frazier and Ali blew away Foster? It don't faze me.

Please keep bringing up these examples! You're winning my argument for me!

 

I would honestly be surprised if he makes it to the 10th round, whether it's the swarming Marciano or not. Norton didn't like pressure and that's what he was all about.

 

Mr. Marvel, you do realize that size doesn't necessarily determine punching power, don't you?

In fact, often times it doesn't.

 

Walk into a gym and you'll see a lot of big guys that can't hit worth ****, and then a guy maybe 160 lbs that sounds like he's shootin off fire *******s.

 

Prove it.........

I want it on film.

 

Norton froze against really big punchers. I think the Rock takes him out in three. Rocky's right hand was legendary and combined with his iron chin and will would be enough to win this fight.

Marciano ko3 Norton

 

Bring your arm and a video camera