Marciano vs. Norton

Dont know why people keep bring up the Cockell fight, Rocky is allow a poor showing here or there he is human.


I pretty sure Marciano would beat the Ali that show up vs Wepner or Young. Or even Spinks I.

 

Spinks and Young possibly but not the Ali who fought Wepner. Rocky would need a ladder to reach Ali consistently enough to hurt him and even an older Ali moved more than any of Rocky's opponents did. Rocky was too short and too slow for Ali....period.

 

Hmmmm.... Marciano MIGHT beat the Ali who was 224 1/2 flabby pounds who fought Leon Spinks in Las vegas........ POSSIBLE!! But Ali still hung tuff, despite being in **** poor shape..........

ALSO! I know goddamn well Leon Spinks was not a great fighter, but in Feb. of '78, at 196 pounds, Leon Spinks was in great shape at age 24 and full of **** and vinegar........ Leon Spinks in 1978 was the BEST 7 to 8 pro fights fighter that I have ever seen at heavyweight.........

Leon Spinks weighed 202 for the rematch with Ali in the Fall of '78, and Spinks lost a lopsided decision... STILL! Leon Spinks looked solid and strong at 202.............. He was simply out-classed by a well tuned Ali.....

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Guys, isn't everyone bored over Marciano already ... some think he defies all logic, statistics, recorded events or common sense... others think he was a fluke that lucked out timewise ... no one budges and around and around we go endlessly ... agree to disagree on this guy and get to other equally endless arguments ...

 

Chuck Wepner was NOT a ***** in 1975 out in Cleveland....................... I'm sure Ol' Wepner would've welcomed a fight with a '53 Marciano in Cleveland, instead of a '75 version of Ali who was over 220 pounds, and not yet washed up......... Ali had a tuff time with Ol' Chucky baby, but Ali was always in control, too............... Wepner was tuff............. Cheers.........

MR.BILL

 

Mr. Bill, the better question is if Norton could beat Rex Layne, not Rocky Marciano. Marciano kills Norton. Layne in his prime vs norton is a toss up. Layne was a horrible stylistic matchup for norton.

 

Please be realistic. That version of Ali was slow as molasses... Walcott, Charles, Lastarza all moved MUCH BETTER than a mid 1970s FAT Ali

Rocky Marciano knocks out Muhammad Ali of the 70s. Ali would try to rope a dope and take horrible punishment from marciano, Ali simply was not fast enough any more in the 70s to avoid marciano punishment for 15 rounds. I like marciano by late TKO. I think a 1970s Ali is the most overated fighter head to head of all time, there are MANY great heavyweights I would pick to beat a mid 1970s Ali.

1966 Muhammad Ali beats Rocky by unanimous decision. A 1960s Ali was the real thing, he doesnt lose.

 

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Ali of '64 thru '77 EASILY ***** slaps Marciano in a fight in the ring............. CHRIST! Marciano was an aggressive bobber & weaver who owned a good punch of the right hand and a solid left-hook......... The Ali of '76 who struggled against Norton at Yankee Stadium still could handle a 190 lb. Marciano.................... Norton at 217 pounds was on fire in New York............... Ali was hurt, and the fight was close; Ali still won the decision.................. Cheers........

MR.BILL

 

Shavers got dropped for a ( NINE count ...9 in the last rd...Stalling had a 21-24 record and was stopped 6 times before he fought Earnie Shavers., he weighed 209 but could have been lighter, he was 5"9...in one of Shavers early fights he lost to 180lb Stan Johnson, was ko's in 1 by 200 lb Jerry Quarry and could not Ko light heavyweight Vincente Rondon who was Ko'd in 2 rds in a previous fight by Bob Foster.Young also weighed 200 in his draw with Shavers(most felt Young won) LEtS not make Shavers an all time great based on losses to Ali and Holmes. His best Ko came over the KOable Ken Norton who could not slug or run from a puncher.Shavers lost all the big ones

 

I like Chuck Wepner and have seen him fight many times...Rocky would kill Wepner...Chuck was tough because he could bleed better than any heavy other than Henry Cooper but he could not punch his way out of a paper bag or box a lick. Chuck was easy to hit, so easy in fact he did not block, he was a poor mans Tex Cobb and that is not saying much.Chuck had a lot of heart but Chuck was a big target but had zero offence and zero power. In fact I would bet that Don Cockell beats him.

 

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Okay... Styles make fights............ Fair...... But even if Marciano would KO Wepner, that doesn't mean he'd whup ALI!! In my world, Ali ***** slaps Marciano into a 13th round defeat................ Marciano cut above and below BOTH eyes.................... I bought the "Computerized DVD" off ESB a year or so ago........ The disc has a DUEL ending............... Marciano's KO ending is BULL****!! I prefer Ali's TKO win on cuts much better:bbb
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SR.BILLARDO

 

The thing about Marciano's cuts is Rocky was never relly a bleeder.

In around his 5th pro fight a headbutt open up Rocky's eye, and it never heal right. Thus later foes, like Reenes and Charles reopen the cut. Now the cut was never bad to have a stoppage, but still I dont think Ali would stop the Rock on cuts.

Charles thing was a freak thing.

 

Marciano's ass would be grass against the likes of many POST 1960 heavies............... Liston, Ali, Frazier, Foreman, Holmes, Tyson, Holy, Bowe, Lewis & The K bros. would more than likely kill or KO Marciano in a time machine.............. Cheerio........

MR.BILL

 

If you belive that, might as well add Joe Louis, Jack Dempsey and Jack Johnson to that list.