Marciano vs Patterson 1956

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  1. SuzieQ49

    SuzieQ49 The Manager Full Member

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    No one past present or future outside of maybe Johansson mother would agree with that statement. Its quite clear Johansson was nowhere near the puncher Marciano was.

    Bull****? Marciano has the most single famous one punch knockout in the history of boxing, and he scored plenty of one punch knockouts with that right hand.

    Again if you ask any fan, expert, historian, writer, fighter, manager, etc you stand alone in this opinion, no one sees it this way but you. Marcianos resume is far superior and he doesn't have bad losses on it like Floyd does


    You mean the same chin threat was floored by a below average light heavyweight, Roy Harris, Pete radamacher, quarry, tom mcneeley, knocked out multiple times etc etc?
     
  2. crixus85

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    Never knew that Brian London knocked down Patterson,, Which round did he do it in the 11 it lasted?
     
  3. SuzieQ49

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    He didn't. Typo. Patterson was put down by weak punchers and knocked out by big punchers
     
  4. Dubblechin

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    Floyd Patterson by late TKO or close decision over Marciano.

    Johansson fought in the straight-up European style of the day. Rocky didn't fight like that. Rocky fought more like Bonavena than Johansson. And Patterson still had enough in his late 30s to decision a 29-year-old Bonavena. Floyd was certainly a lot better in 1956 than he was in 1972.

    Also, if Floyd could wipe out Archie Moore in 1956, he certainly had the power to drop and hurt Rocky.

    Patterson by 15 round decision, with both guys rising from knockdowns to finish. Although, Rocky would be a bloody mess at the end.

    Floyd wasn't the victim of any one-punch KOs. You had to club him to death to keep him down. And even then, he usually got up.

    If they fought three times from 1956 on, Floyd wins two out of the three.
     
  5. SuzieQ49

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    Sonny Liston flattens him twice in one round. Floyd can't handle great Punchers
     
  6. Dubblechin

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    Liston was far bigger than Floyd. Rocky wasn't.

    And at the world-class level, Marciano didn't knock out any heavyweights in one round ... except for Joe Walcott in their rematch (who missed the count). Not exactly a brutal KO.

    If Walcott and Moore can put Rocky down, Patterson could, too.
     
  7. yancey

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    Too bad Don ****ell isn't around so we can find out a bit more about this supposed Rocky one-shot power.
     
  8. Dubblechin

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    It would've looked something like this, but Floyd would've been much younger and quicker and Rocky would've been a lot smaller.

    Close fight. But, over 15, Patterson pulls away at the end while Rocky bleeds all over them.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rKMvu17Bqk0
     
  9. SuzieQ49

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    Nice logic. If Harris and radamacher can put Patterson down, marcian could too.
     
  10. SuzieQ49

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    No it would look something like this

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=pakesTezKYo

    Patterson weak jaw gets splattered in pieces by marcianos power punches
     
  11. SuzieQ49

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    At the world class level,

    Marciano went 11-0 with 10 knockouts against top 10 competition

    He went 6-0 with 5 knockouts against hall of famers

    How did Floyd do when he faced big punchers? 3 knockout losses to Liston and Johansson

    You think Johansson could punch like Marciano?
     
  12. SuzieQ49

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    Too bad Roy Harris isn't around so we can find out s bit more about this supposed underrated chin of Floyd
     
  13. Dubblechin

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    I said Rocky puts him down. I said they both go down. Patterson just wins the decision.
     
  14. Dubblechin

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    Look. I know you're smarter than this. I don't think Hasim Rahman hits harder than David Tua, but I know Rahman stopped Lennox Lewis with one shot and Tua couldn't do anything to Lewis at all.

    And I think Johansson hit harder than Floyd, but Floyd stopped Johansson in two of their three fights.

    Styles make fights. Johansson and Liston weren't anything like Marciano. NOTHING. And Johansson and Liston couldn't stop Floyd with one shot, either.

    Patterson has the power to hurt Rocky (he stopped Archie Moore, he can drop Rocky) and he had the skills (even when he was an older guy) to outbox a bigger, younger top heavyweight (Bonavena) who fought more like Rocky than Sonny Liston or Johansson did.

    I give the edge to Patterson. I explained why. Marciano could be dropped. He could fall behind in fights (he needed A KO to beat Walcott). He was cut around his eyes. His eyes tended to swell. His nose was destroyed and had to be reconstructed. He complained of a bad back at the end of his career.

    Are you forgetting all that, too?

    If you didn't want anyone with a different opinion to comment, why pose the question?

    And if your only response was "who hit harder" ... you're coming off like someone who doesn't know cr*p about boxing.

    You should know better than that.
     
  15. SuzieQ49

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    When Marciano puts Patterson down, he finishes him. Patterson is not making It out alive