Marciano vs Schmeling

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  1. TheGreatA

    TheGreatA Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Not by a whole lot if he was. It is arguable.
     
  2. mr. magoo

    mr. magoo VIP Member Full Member

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    Very true. But I think Jersey was on his last legs in the first fight and gave one last final great performance before falling into the abyss in the second match. Also I think that it was a similar situation to Schmeling's first fight with Louis, where the slugger learned his lesson and got his foe out early the next time around...
     
  3. sugarsean

    sugarsean Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Not for me, always considered Jersey Joe Walcott a much better fighter than Schmeling
     
  4. red cobra

    red cobra Loyal Member Full Member

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    Rocky would have worn Max down and stopped him before 12.
     
  5. mr. magoo

    mr. magoo VIP Member Full Member

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    In fairness, Jersey was probably a better fighter, but how wide exactly the margin is debatable and difficult to gauge.. I for one feel that Walcott was better equipped to trouble men like Charles and Marciano, but that doesn't necessarily speak for them as a whole across the board.. Schmeling beat a prime Jack Shakey and prime Louis along with a number of other truly good fighters, whereas Walcott was most remembered for a lot of his losing efforts..
     
  6. TheGreatA

    TheGreatA Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I don't think there's anything that really separates Walcott from Schmeling as far as records go. If you think he had better skills then that's a valid opinion, but again it's arguable.

    Schmeling was every bit as awkward as Walcott was in my opinion but in a different way.
     
  7. sugarsean

    sugarsean Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I just think Walcott had a lot more to his arsenal, great counter puncher, combination's, jab, footwork and he's one of the greatest ring general's ever, he could trick almost anyone into shots.

    I rate Schmeling, But for me Walcott was the much better fighter
     
  8. TheGreatA

    TheGreatA Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    In Schmeling's favour you could say that there was never a man who could take his right hand out of the equation. He always found ways to land it consistently.
     
  9. mr. magoo

    mr. magoo VIP Member Full Member

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    I agree,

    But similar arguments could be made for Walcott's left hook. Charles, marciano and Louis were all men who hit the deck from it.
     
  10. frankenfrank

    frankenfrank Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Rocco makes quick work out of that eurobum
     
  11. frankenfrank

    frankenfrank Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    1 had 2b a special kind of ATG 2 get stopped by Schmelling :yep
     
  12. JWSoats

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    Schmeling was a smart boxer with a great right hand, and I believe he would have his moments against Marciano. He was victorious against Louis the first time around because he noticed that Joe dropped his left hand for an instant after jabbing, which left him momentarily vulnerable for a right hand, which was Schmeling's Sunday punch. He studied films of Louis and was able to time his strike to near perfection. An overconfident Louis allowed him the time and distance to execute his plan. Max said in his autobiography that by fight time, he knew Joe as a fighter better than Joe did himself. Against Marciano, he would be hard put to succeed as he had against Louis in 1936. Marciano's style was awkward to the point that his movements were very hard to predict. And he was not that easy to hit. All the while he would be pressing forward, throwing punches. After being knocked out by Marciano, Louis said "He hits harder than Schmeling." I believe that Rocky would grind Max down and stop him in the later rounds after a hard-fought fight.
     
  13. Joe E

    Joe E Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Maxs' footwork or lack thereof suits Marciano to a T. Max isnt strong enough to hold Marciano off him. I see a relatively easy go of it for the Rock. Marciano KO 9.
     
  14. PetethePrince

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    Not the most ideal matchup for Max. Fighters like Charles and Walcott would always trouble Marciano more than Schemling IMHO.
     
  15. PetethePrince

    PetethePrince Slick & Redheaded Full Member

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    This guy said it first and better. Well done.