Marciano VS the 2 Lennox Lewis conquerors

Only Joe Louis of the Baer fight

No one else

You can make a case for Langford and Dempsey though

 

Yes that's about it.Fitz would be too static for him imo.Schmeling not as good imo.
Prime Charles gives him a go, and Tunney but would you back either to beat him?

 

Agreed. Tunney does have a good chance, a really good one, but I think Marciano turns it on late and gets to Tunney . Would be very close.

 

Marciano wasnt an attrition puncher, he had incredible one punch knockout power, until he fell out of his prime. I suggest you go watch Joe Walcott 1&2, Rex Layne, Harry Matthews, and read up on the Carmine Vingo fight. The only person he "attrition punched" for IN HIS PRIME was Roland LaStarza, a defensive genius with a good chin to match, and he broke the bones and blood vessels in Roland LaStarza's arms until he couldnt lift them anymore

 

It's a point of view,I think Dempsey would do better than Rocky because he was ,quicker of hand and foot, with longer reach, and a bit taller .

 

I wouldn’t call lastarza a defensive genius when clubfighter rocky jones tattooed his face...but he was good defensively

 

Yeah that’s fair. I don’t think Dempsey has a chance against elite big men like Lewis Klitschko or bowe though

 

Marciano softened Walcott up first as he did Layne.Mathews was a hyped up lhvy,Vingo a stringbean novice ,Cockell went 9 rds 39 years old Moore 9 rds.Charles went the distance and 8rds second time around,Lowry went the distance twice, Applegate went the distance.Marciano broke no bones in Lastarza's arms.Marciano was just 32 when he had his last fight, his 49th,when do you think his prime was?

 

Archie was 38, also cockell and Archie were past his prime. Marciano's prime was in between 184-185lbs, he got heavier in the later parts of his career due to back issues, not having hunger/training less, pressure from his family to stop, and his manager stealing from him

Lowry had a granite chin, having 68 loses and only 3 coming by way of knockout. And his style also messed with Marciano, and his family has stated.

Many sources say that LaStarza's arms were broken/chipped/fractured

 

I've seen Walcott I about a 1000 times. Marciano beats down an old, tired fighter to a stand still where lands a punch (the same punch he landed in rounds before) but this time when the old man is on old, tired legs and is coming into the punch. It was an attrition performance, wearing down the old man and his old pins till he would stay in position to get hit. Layne was a soft, tubbo he beat into submission, Matthews was a West Coast light heavy hype job and Vingo was nothing more than the most nascent prospect. I will agree with you on LaStarza. He was a defensive genius. He was able to duck any decent and deserving competition from the moment he beat Marciano until he was able to get him back in the ring. Great defense!

Congratulations on having the Marcianista Official Script down pat, tho. I will award credit for that.

My real question is... What does a prime Lennox Lewis do to that assorted list? There's not a commission that would license a fight with Matthews or Layne. But if there were, would he require an attrition performance to stop them?

 

Marciano was far from his best in the first walcott fight, it had to be delayed because he got a cut during sparring, so he was awkward and not used to fighting, and he got something in his eyes in the middle rounds when he had just found his rhythm, causing him to literally only see a shadow of walcott. Also, walcott was a crafty fighter who aged like fine wine, and had amazing conditioning for his age. He was a young man at heart.

Rocky didnt need attrition for those fights, he destroyed vingo/layne/matthews in the early/mid rounds.

 

Moore's Mother stated he was 2 years older than he claimed which would have made him 40.I split the difference in the interest of fairness!
Marciano trained as hard for Moore as he did for anyone he was just a quarter pound more than he had been for the 2nd Charles fight!lol All of Marciano's defences occurred within a 5 lbs weight fluctuation!

Lowry didnt have a granite chin. Tiger Ted called Archie Moore his toughest opponent.

 

Personally I don't think he was in his prime during the ezzaed Charles fights either, but that's up for debate. Anyways, Marciano stated afterwards that it was a bad showing and that he should've beaten Archie faster. Don't forget he also had back issues, family issues, and his thieving manager

Lol if thats true about Archie then that only makes me respect him more, that means he fought Ali at 48, that's wild

68 fights is alot to go the distance in. Also again, the style confused Marciano

 

Marciano was a good little fighter.

 

I believe he chipped bones in lastarzas arms. Is that a break?