Marciano vs the top light-heavyweights of all time

I want to see Rocky Marciano fight Thomas Adamek..lol both punches and punches with indestructible heads.

 

Rocky annihilates him.

 

Doesn't JT love Walcott, Lamotta, Pep, Charles, and tough old school guys like that? I remember seeing him in an interview say so.

 

This is contrary to any facts ever written by anyone about Marciano so I guess you have a cristal ball, Marciano ran 8 miles a day until he started training then upped it to 10 the ran 15 miles a day leading up to the fight. Marciano blew up to 270 after the Moore fight and he still was not fat just wide. Marciano had to train so very hard to make 188 so I dont know where you get that insight

 

marciano was very lucky to never fight someone as big or massive in his prime such as juan carlos gomez or david haye.
marciano could have easily made 175 and that is where he belonged.
he was hw for financial reasons.
against moorer and spinks he may be hit hard , and if he swarms , he might run into punches and get hit even harder.
against patterson i think he knew himself he may be in a problem , and i guess he knew it better than i , as he retired before facing patterson.
marciano was even smaller than patterson. not by far , but still smaller.
and patterson was a 175 for a period.
i do think marciano is a top5 175 , maybe even #1 there.
but at higher weights he simply will be too small which will increase his lack of power , reach and height. p4p he was strong , but weaker than haye.

 

None are outslugging him except Langford. A few might outspeed him and squeeze a decision .. Michael Spinks and a prime Charles, maybe ... a prime Moore , maybe ... if those guys fought the fights of their life ... I would not bet on any of them, that's for sure ...

 

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Archie Moore ain't better than what we saw of him on film from 1951-1955. That was his best stuff. Moore put up the best fight he could vs Marciano. Charles was past his prime. I don't think Archie was.


Take a read at this article...

http://news.google.com/newspapers?i...&pg=4073,1449021&dq=nino+valdes+puncher&hl=en

"So far Moore hasn't shown even the faintest sign that he is on the way down."- Aug 10 1954 New York AP

 

I can´t see nobody around his weight that would beat him including Fitzsimmons, Langford and Greb.

 

I can't see any reason why Marciano would have wanted to try to make 175, and I doubt if he could have while retaining his great health. He could have more easily weighed in at a healthy 205 than 175.

 

Marciano would have to come into the ring with no trunks, no shoes, no protector,no gloves ,and no toupee, to make anywhere near 175lbs it would not happen.

 

I know rocky did scale a pound or so over light heavyweight early in his career but at his peak I dont think he could make it. back then light heavyweights often operated as heavyweights. The division didnt realy operate exclusively as other divisions even though it had its own title. by the standards of the day anything over middle was heavyweight only there were "light" heavyweights amoung them. marciano was a 200lb man who boiled down and ran a lot thats how he was 187. as lightheavy was anyone barly over midleweight marciano was never that. Id say though rocky was nearer LH than he was modern heavys he had a natural advantage over a division of guys who were often super middleweights with a meal in them. It is a true weight class now but back then LH was just a stopgap. LH was always closer to modern day super middle than the cruser end of the division.

 

No one doubts that Rocky trained astonishingly hard, or that if heused todays training methods he would be heavier not lighter (with the weights emphasis, rather than stamina emphasis), but I have seen a few articles floating around where Marciano has said that he is trying to add a few extra pounds. If this is the case, then you would think that witout this emphasis and instead with an emphasis in losing a couple of pounds, it wouldnt be totally impossible for him to make the limit without losing too much. Though i must say, 175 would seem too low.

For someone like Tunney in particular though, one aspect which hasnt been considered, is whether coming in below the light heavyweight limit would actually effect them. When tunney fought at heavy, he himself went up to the heavyweight limit, and he probably relied on power against Dempsey more than people realise, so is it possible that a smaller version may lack the power to keep marciano off, and maybe just maybe, he would be better off taking the fight at heavy.

 

I spoke to Rocky's brother Peter several months ago. He told me Rocky weighed around 210 to 215 when he was not training, and that he really struggled to get his weight under 190lb. That should put an end to the arguement Rocky was trying to "Gain Weight".