Marciano - Would You Give Any Fighter...

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by Russell, Jan 17, 2008.


  1. Seamus

    Seamus Proud Kulak Full Member

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    Bowe couldn't even convincingly beat Coetzer until he started fouling him. An extremely over-rated fighter.
     
  2. Sweet Pea

    Sweet Pea Obsessed with Boxing banned

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    At HW? Most certainly, I don't think that needs much explaining.

    At CW, I think Holyfield probably. I'd even say someone like a prime Ezzard Charles and perhaps at around 185, Floyd Patterson. And as I've always said, I would take Roy Jones over 12 based on styles. Gene Tunney stands a chance as well.

    Of the guys Imentioned, only Holyfield I would favor as strongly as Russell mentioned though. Plenty of HW's though, such as Ali, Lewis, Holmes, Liston, Foreman, Tyson, Holyfield, and perhaps Frazier. Perhaps Dempsey as well, I think I'd favor him.
     
  3. ironchamp

    ironchamp Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I'd pick:

    Liston, Ali, Foreman, Tyson, Lewis as clear favorites.

    Louis, Holyfield, Holmes, W. Klitschko, V. Klitschko, Bowe as slight favorites.

    Frazier, Dempsey, Walcott, Charles, Jeffries, Johnson are 50/50.

    Everyone else is an underdog.
     
  4. Mega Lamps

    Mega Lamps Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Not really too many. Foreman basically although he could be beaten as well. Liston and Ali could have good shots as well.
     
  5. Dempsey1238

    Dempsey1238 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Guys I favor to beat the Rock.

    John L. Sullivan
    James J. Corbett
    Bob Fitzsimmons
    James J. Jeffries
    Marvin Hart
    Tommy Burns
    Jack Johnson
    Jess Willard
    Jack Dempsey
    Gene Tunney
    Max Schmeling
    Jack Sharkey
    Max Baer
    James J. Braddock
    Joe Louis
    Ezzard Charles
    "Jersey" Joe Walcott
    Floyd Patterson
    Ingemar Johansson
    Charles "Sonny" Liston
    Joe Frazier
    George Foreman
    Muhammad Ali
    Leon Spinks
    Larry Holmes
    Michael Spinks
    Mike Tyson
    James "Buster" Douglas
    Riddick Bowe
    Evander Holyfield
    Michael Moorer
    Shannon Briggs
    Hasim Rahman
    Lennox Lewis
    Vk
    WK
    Byrd
    Superman
    Batman
    Aquaman.
    Brewster
    David Tua
    Two Ton Toney
    And any other heavyweight that crosses your lips.
     
  6. sweet_scientist

    sweet_scientist Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    :lol:
     
  7. ironchamp

    ironchamp Boxing Addict Full Member

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    His record would be 30-14* against that bunch.
























    *1. Though Awarded the verdict many ringside obvservers agreed that Jack Johnson was indeed the winner.

    *2. Aquaman citing a knee injury retired before the start of round 7 while officially being ahead on all three judges scorecards; 58-56 , 58-56, 59-55.
     
  8. Dempsey1238

    Dempsey1238 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    14 losses?? And who would be the 14 to beat him?/
     
  9. sthomas

    sthomas Boxing Addict Full Member

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    This is the way I look at these time capsule fights too. Marciano if 30 years old today would be about 6'1" or 6'2" and weigh about 220 lbs. I don't know why so many people do not accept this premise, or that if today's fighters went back to the 50's they'd be lighter and shorter. If we are going to talk about hypothetical situations, why not at least make them realistic.
     
  10. ironchamp

    ironchamp Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Louis, Liston, Frazier, Foreman, Ali, Holmes, Tyson, Bowe, Holyfield, Lewis, V Klitschko, W Klitschko, Superman, Aquaman (if they had a rematch)
     
  11. sthomas

    sthomas Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Looks like the Marciano critics are having fun. Watch his championship fights again carefully, a few times each. Dude was a freakin animal and there was true method to his madness.
     
  12. Dempsey1238

    Dempsey1238 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    You ant going to add the Spinks brothers? Braddock?? Briggs to beat the Rock.
     
  13. Bummy Davis

    Bummy Davis Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I got to laugh at some of these posts, Bowe would get battered by Rocky and do what Golota fouled up, Liston,Foreman,Ali, lets not forget 179lb Marty Marshall who broke listons jaw and dropped him, Coopers hook that dropped Ali, and Lyle almost had Foreman out of there, do you guys really think Marciano of all people would just walk in there and just be hit and not hit back, Walcotts hook was as hard as any hook I have seen it was classic but Rocky bounced up at 2, same with the Moore KD and Marciano dominated Archie and did the same to every other fighter that he fought 2 times, look at the 1st fight and combine the 2nd, Charles,Lastarza,Walcott and see who was a master at rematches only Louis and Marciano. I dont think anyone would want to fight him 10 times let alone 2-3...fighting Marciano 2 times was an extremly painfull experience.
     
  14. JohnThomas1

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    Yeah Archie and Walcott's punches on Rocky was just amazing but all the punches on the other guys were just crap - and i notice you don't include the dumpings of Joe Louis either?

    :lol:
     
  15. groove

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    Liston and Foreman are nothing compared to Rocky. Liston would be lucky to land a shot and there's fat chance that Foreman would land a shot that's more effective than what the old Mongoose or Walcott landed. They are so overrated compared to the old 50s fighters that Rocky fought. Yeah i too laugh at some of these posts :lol: