Marcianos 3 minute bomb run on the durable Don Cockell

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  1. Drew101

    Drew101 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    * There's at least two instances where London suffered a cut eye stoppages. It could be an issue for him. Cokkell was probably done by the time he met Lave; I don't dislike DC's chances against some of those guys that London beat.

    Agree to disagree, I guess. Either way, Rock throws a lot of hard punches for a long time on Rez's clip. Even if they're landing at 7 and 8 out of 10 power, it's still impressive to watch him throw that many during that time.
     
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  2. reznick

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    So if the Layne KO wasn't a 1 Punch KO, and neither was the Walcott fight, then doesn't that keep the floodgates sealed tight?

    Wouldn't that make most of Tysons and Foremans KO victories the result of grinding?
     
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    I didn't say that, though you are slyly insinuating it.What I am saying is the intelligent early body attack set up Layne for the ko.
    Goldman had seconded Brion against Layne and noticed he had a weak belly,he told Rocky to target it saying, "Cesar couldn't do it ,he isn't as strong and doesn't hit as hard as you but that's the ticket to winning this fight".
    Marciano tried to take Lastarza out with one punch in their second fight, after dropping behind on points he realized it wasn't going to happen, so he astutely changed his tactics and targeted the body, throwing clusters of punches ,instead of relying on the Suzie Q to get the job done.
    Marciano ground down.
    Moore
    Lastarza
    Cokell
    Louis
    Charles
    Yes or No?
     
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    No one is arguing the toss about Marciano's ability, to throw hard punches for 15 rounds. The problem was quite a few of them missed the target, if he had been a more accurate puncher he probably would have scored a lot more earlier ko's over the quality guys.
     
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    Please name the two instances.If you can find them that will be 2 in 52 fights,that does not imply , "London bled a lot".
     
  6. JohnThomas1

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    Valdes, Davila and Richardson i reckon Mac.
     
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    The Cockell fight was an off night for Marciano. It was only made to test the nose post Charles 2 .. Rocky was really not up for it , was a bit on the downside of his career from a motivation standpoint and had a bit of an off night. In addition Cockell fought a courageous fight, really the defining performance of his career .. that said was Cockell really in the fight ? Rocky pretty much dominated him and won decisively. No one looks their best every fight and it is silly to question Rocky's power as it was pound for pound as good as it gets ..
     
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  8. Drew101

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    Valdes and Richardson. He also marked up against Patterson.
     
  9. Drew101

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    In Rez's clip, he's not missing outright all that often , especially as the round goes on. In fact, to borrow a phrase that Virgil Hill used to describe Hopkins, Rock shows he was really good at "always getting something" (arm, shoulder, glancing blow to the head)-and if you're as heavy handed as Rock was, that will eventually take its toll.
     
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    Davila Knocks Out London In 6th Round at Liverpool


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    LIVERPOOL, England, Feb. 29 (UPI) -- Peruvian heavyweight Roberto Davila stopped Brian London on cuts in the sixth round of their scheduled 10-round fight at Liverpool Stadium tonight.
     
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  11. reznick

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    I'm not trying to by sly or whatever, I'm trying to understand and address your argument.

    You contend that Rocky was an attrition grinder.
    Or at least you have in the past, so I assume it's still a view you hold.

    And you seem to be using non 1-punch KO as examples of this.
    And I tried to verify the accuracy of the argument by comparing him to his peers in that respect.

    I'm not saying Marciano didn't often wear his opponents down throughout the fight with high volume power punches. I'm saying he also has 1 punch KO power.
     
  12. reznick

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    Have you read, found, or done any punch stats on any of his performances?