Marciano's Body Frame could easily be Tua and Tyson

Yeah I'd imagine losing both legs definitely makes a difference to one's career.

 

So really when one talks of mythical match ups one must envision modern hwts off steroids or past great on steroids. A rounded up Dempsey is a frightening thought.

 

Hazelton's story seems like sensationalist anti-steroid propaganda to me.
It's possibly that steroids caused the blood clots in his legs but not necessarily so, blood clots happen to people for unknown reasons, and most people who take steroids are fine.
Whatever the cause of his blood clots (good doctors often say they cannot be sure what caused the clots) it seems Hazelton made the hugely stupid error of ignoring what was happening to his leg and hoping it would go away.

When bad things happen to people they have a tendency to grasp for answers and if they can identify a "bad thing" they did that caused it, they often run with that.
When really life and illness is often random or unknown.

But, having said all that, YES, I do take it as a given that steroids were quite common in boxing back in the 1970s. :good

 

It would put you in a different weight class anyway.

 

This is by and large very true.

For example, let's look at super New School training regime of a young Tyson. It's a real meathead, muscle building program, modern in every sense of the word. Without it, Mike would have been a featherweight..

5 AM: Get up and go for a 3 mile jog

6 AM: Come back home, shower, and go back to bed

10 AM wake up: Eat oatmeal

12 PM: Do ring work (10 rounds of sparring)

2 PM: Have another meal (steak and pasta with fruit juice)

3 PM: More ring work and 60 mins on the exercise bike

5 PM: 2000 sit-ups, 500-800 dips, 500 press-ups, 500 shrugs with a 30kg barbell, and 10 mins of neck exercises

7 PM: Steak and pasta meal with fruit juice

8 PM: Another 30 minutes on the exercise bike then watch TV and go to bed

 

At what point in the day did they inject his veins with roids?

 

Probably wasn't every day.
I think a shot of testosterone once a week will do the trick. :good

 

This is the best you can come up with?

Because just doing roids without a specific workout plan will build size, correct?

And because the allegations were rife regarding Tyson pre prison, correct?

 

Most likely would.
And certainly with the workout plan you posted.

 

I am of the opinion that a significant majority of top athletes were roiding during this time period. This accounts for the super muscularity....unusual muscularity seen during that time. We know it was occurring in baseball and football and have no reason to believe it was not occurring in boxing. Was Tyson not roided up better than Dempsey or Marciano? Would roided up versions of Dempsey and Marciano easily beat anyone anywhere? Certainly adds another dimension to the discussion.

 

Top athletes in all relevant sports have been using 'roids since the 1960s.
It wasn't even considered an issue back then. Athletes would just take the shots their doctors gave them. Tests were non-existent or easy to get passed.
Some of these athletes probably don't even know they took "anabolic steroids" since it hadn't become a tabloid sensation, or else they conveniently forget.

As late as the 1990s Jose Sulaiman of the WBC was saying that steroids weren't actually tested for or explicitly forbidden but agreed that he might take sanctions against 'roiding champions.

This era is probably even worse, the drugs have become so advanced.

 

Meanwhile commissions were testing for marijuana and cocaine.

Probably so they could inform the police.
It's all politics.

 

The thing about any form of cheating in sport, is that even if you fool the whole world, you still know!

 

The issue is the use of steroids did not become a science until more recent eras. Those fighters who participated performed as well because of their use. Can anyone spell asterisk?

 

Steroids don't exist in a fantasy fight, or they do but you always get caught.

If you are only beating somebody by using steroids, then it is a sham.