Marciano's Body Frame could easily be Tua and Tyson

I agree. I could not believe my eyes!!

How the hell Joyce won anything as an amateur I don't understand.

Did you check that guys Jacksie pop out??

 

Yes, you're right, he did fight at cruiser again at the end.

I don't think he necessarily fluctuated much when he's going from "213" or thereabouts, to 190. He weighed in with clothes and possibly weights for some of those fights. The remarkable thing is he might have been 200 or less against some of his good heavyweight opponents.

 

I think Norris is a bit unsung. He was as good as anybody, he just never got the breaks in close fights, his face did not fit. But I like him. I like him a lot!

 

Tua's weight gain is easily explained. It wasn't natural magic Samoan muscle gain and bone growth in his early 20s.

He turned pro just over the limit. Its obvious they believed in his punch and despite his stature wanted him to compete at HW as a Pro.

Nobody fights at 200 lbs, so probably out of fear he would get bullied when he stepped up in competition, they stuffed his face with cheeseburgers, possibly gave him PEDs and weights to throw around, and beefed him to 220. Of course, he loved the process so much, he didnt stop there, and ended up looking like a Sumo.

Its not rocket science, but if you want to argue against logic, you come up with crazy stuff like magic Samoan muscle gains and super fixed bone structure. Speaking of which, given Tua was probably eating enough to feed an army since his early 20s, yeah, his bones probably grew in density quite a bit by the time he was 30. So yeah, all bout "dem big bones"

 

He just ate too much.

Yeah, up to about 225 his trainers (if they knew anything) probably thought that was all good because he's going to be harder to push back, but up at 230+ it's just lack of discipline and development of a "weight problem".

I think Tua at his biggest was probably a real bigger lean mass than Marciano was.
But even at his biggest he'd probably be no more than 197 or 198 if he'd had been in the type of condition Marciano was in at 186, so the difference isn't huge.

 

Agree 100%.

 

Not very edifying!

 

I don't, I think he swallowed it in both the Tyson and Vitali fights.

 

Orlin could really box. He slick. He just was not a puncher. During his time as NABF heavyweight champion he proved to be a very good heavyweight. He won ten fights for that title at a very competitive level beating Snipes, McCall, Page, Jesse Ferguson and Larry Alexander. Had Norris not been robbed against Tucker he would have fought Lennox Lewis in his prime.

 

Had he done so he would probably have quit in that one too.

 

Well Lewis was a hard guy to beat. And I don't think Norris had enough pop in his punch to win. But we saw how Norris handled Tucker. And Tucker was not exactly a mismatch for Lewis in his next fight was he?

If Lewis did not want to fight Byrd why Norris?

 

Have you worked out how to calculate average weight yet?

 

Confessions of a stalker! I shall contact you when I next want to unearth my older posts.

 

Only a dumbo like you would think such a search took more than 2 or 3 mins.

Certainly showed you up for the two faced deceitful liar that you are.