Marciano's Body Frame could easily be Tua and Tyson

220lbs lean and conditioned? Haha, I could walk around at 220, doesn't mean I can fight at heavyweight! I don't see why he couldn't get to Fraziers size, but why would he even want to get to 215? 200-205 would be ideal.

 

I'll give you that Rocky COULD have bulked to 215 of lean, with some modern... help. Not sure he'd be good at that weight, though. I think it's preposterous to believe he'd have been useless at 205, though. I doubt he'd lose power or speed, either. I think he'd have gotten faster, which might seem ridiculous but he was definitely a naturally large man and if he'd trained for plyometrics I think he could have at least avoided seeing depredation of his speed. Power could only increase with the added weight to his body. Stamina wouldn't be the same but I doubt he'd lose a great deal of stamina, and with his training discipline he retain muscular endurance in the arms.

 

rocky marciano was an animal. Chek 1:48 in the vid https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8fsGIq0t6YY

 

Marciano was tiny structurally. Sloped shouldered, shallow chest, truncated limbs. He would be a human bowling ball at 205 and lose all that crazy flexibility fr the waist upon which he relied so much. Yall mother****ers are delusional.

 

210-215 Marciano would loose his biggest asset, conditioning, and without that he a sitting duck waiting to get laid out.

I wish there would be some kind of time machine and bring the Rock back for ONE fight against the old WK.........I bet my bottom dollar that NONE of the fanatical Rock lovers would put a freaking dime on him, guaranteed.

 

If Marciano would have been ideal at 210, he would have been 210 in his prime.

Seriously, it depresses me the extents you people will go in order to amplify your hero's accomplishments. He doesn't need amplification. He was a great fighter. But he was not, nor never would have been, a 210 pound fighter of any significance.

 

Hot Tub Time Machine!

 

he was certaintly big enough to beat the best of his day, be the sole Champion fight his # 1 contender 5 out of 6 and rematch and win 49 out of 49 fights and ko 43 men. If Marciano was born today or the Klitschkos or Lewis fought in his day how big would they be and how effective would only be speculation.

Marciano was a beast in his day END OF STORY....people are bigger these days, my sons are bigger than me and if Marciano was born at a later date more than likely his parents and he would be bigger but this is a mute point because like I said he was big enough to be a dominant champion in an era with experienced men who were mostly dominant and active contenders

Marciano posts are some of the most active here and a lot of people are picking hairs looking to undermine his greatness, I was one of them years ago but research enlightened me. Marciano was a very rare specimen with some extrodinary strengths both external and internal and I reconise him in my top 3 ATG at heavyweight

By the way I have seen people put on 40-50 lbs of muscle, I seen Tyson gain 20+lbs on his already muscular frame when he fought in the 200lb class in the olympics so Marciano could add muscle and still maintain his gifts.

 

we dont have time machines different era indeed but one of the things that the giants of the past and present have shown us is that as big as you are your chin stays the same and in recent times both Lennox Lewis and Vlad had their moments that reminded us that "the bigger you are the harder you fall" We have seen Willard bounced by Dempsey and Buddy Baer,Simon and Primo bounced by Louis so while I do see quality in Vlad K. and Lennox and credit it to the amateur experience and modern supplements I would not bet too heavily on their chins against the very elite punchers that can apply pressure

 

I think the heavyweight division has changed. Training the way he did at the time he did Rocky was the best he could be.

fighters did not develop size then as they clearly do now. Even big Heavyweights want to be bigger. Ideas if Optimum weight has changed to suit a situation. A lot of people say Rocky is a cruiserweight. Well there are a lot of champions of recent times who with 1950s training and diet would have been cruiserweights too. They would be taller but many would be what we call cruiserweight now.

But who would be better for it? I think there are pros and cons for all fighters. Obviously there is a balance between advantage and disadvantage to be met.

I still think the balance between having more seasoned competition an advanced pace, increased combination of experience with youth is totally understated in these debates. Size is advantageous in itself but so is frequency of competitive fights within era's. We recognise an advantage is an advantage and that some eclipse others. The balance of size and pace can be a tight rope.

But that is not the question. The question is could Marciano be bigger. The answer is yes. But he would be different in just the same way that all modern fighters would likewise be different smaller than themselves as they most surely would be under earlier conditions.