Marciano's Largest opponent (Ht & wt)?

It's especially funny when you watch a fight like Fury vs. Cunningham.

Cunningham knocked down the giant Fury, and only weighed 210lb! :scaredas:

To me it's really simple.

A. Marciano and Louis are comparable punchers. Louis ran through <6'5 giants. Marciano could do the same.

B. Some guy named Muhammad Ali said that Marciano would be his toughest matchup.

Then again you have to excuse Ali's lack of hindsight, he said it at a time when Tony Tubbs hadn't arrived on the scene yet.

 

You can tell posters on here who have nothing to say by how they keep harping on how they know to fight and their "intimate" experience in the fight game.

I think a lot if not most of us on here have boxed or are currently boxing and/or had our brushes with the industry, if not outright paychecks from it, but it's really pointless to bring up. We had one guy on here who claimed to have sparred with a bunch of 2000 era heavies and it just created a giant guessing game around his identity. Merely making claims to your experience is not enough to hack it. You need something more than that, ana-lysis that goes beyond tired old Burt Sugar yarns would be a good start.

 

While I agree with you that size isn't the only consideration, it has to be said that Louis beat fighters who were big, heavy AND world class.

I realize some will call them oafs, but Louis kayoed both Baers, Carnera and Simon. Marciano didn't beat equivalent fighters during his reign(although that wasn't his fault).

Also, I think Louis's accuracy helped him beat the giants:would Rocky's attritional style work as well with them? Who knows?

 

Shannon Briggs was the only man who fit his supposed size and experience of fighting Lennox Lewis. I guessed it and he "admitted" it in a PM to me. He hasn't been around here for a long time.

 

Yeah, they were definitely world class.

I don't think Rocky suffers any stylistic disadvantage against bigger people, in fact I would argue the opposite. Tall fighters are already bigger targets, Rockys crouch will expose them even further.

And Rocky just has incredible power. One of the most powerful punchers of all time. Louis knocked Walcott down and out. Compare that with how Rocky sparked him. Says a lot. If Rocky can score bigger KO's on guys that Louis fought, than he could slay giants. Simple as that.

 

Briggs used to post here? LETS GO CHAMP

What was his opinion on classic boxers?

 

With all due respect, you are (again) overestimating the importance of power and underestimating the importance of size and technique. Much, much, much harder to overwhelm and stop a coordinated 6'3+/220+ giant who can work behind a jab than an oaf of similar proportions or a skilled little man like old JJW. Also much, much harder to get inside against someone like Buster Douglas or Tony Tucker than the less skilled big men of old. Your failure to recognize the obvious stylistic disadvantage that Marciano faces against such men is inexplicable.

 

You can tell the guys who don't know how to talk about fighting because they only state stale platitudes, repeat the conventional wisdom that they've read elsewhere, and make unconvincing claims about their own expertise...

 

Haha...definitely wasn't Briggs. The poster in question (if I'm guessing right) was pretty articulate and made a lot of sense, mostly.
No way it was the bombastic Briggs.

 

Sea when you know anything about the sport and decide to post for real instead of the obvious games you try to play let me know.

Fury is an example of coordination???? Very poor clumsy oaf of a fighter who can't take a punch. He went down like he was shot against Cunningham. Marciano would obliterate him.

These straight up stiff European hwts have the same style we all laughed at back in the 70's. Today in the horrible world of the hwt division the young folk think they are seeing boxing masters. Very very far from it.

 

I agree. I hate this "Have you ever had the gloves on?" *******s! You can still know what you are looking at even if you haven't. Angelo Dundee was a prime example. He picked up knowledge being in gyms for years, yet I don't think he boxed to any great extent.

 

Well, that's the thing. No one else fit the specifications. Some of the other posters were discussing who it wasn't or couldn't be, and I wrote "must be Shannon Briggs then", and he PM'd me to say well done for guessing but don't tell everyone.
Now, since he doesn't post here any more I'm saying, since reading Seamus post above remind me.

BUT ... do I believe it ? ..... :rofl

Probably another extravagant fantasist.
Was Shannon Briggs ever trained by Futch ?

 

That might better be called “Douglas Syndrome”, or “Fury Syndrome”.

The belief that if a modern fighter has size, he beats the smaller greats of the past, irrespective of the quality of that fighter.

 

Surely the truth lies somewhere in between the two extremes?

 

Most probably.