Marco Antonio Barrera helps break down Pacquiao VS Mayweather (Video)

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  1. Gander Tasco

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    :clap: Bogotazo your analysis is right on . You said it better then I ever could . It's Floyd's habits that would lose him the fight with Pacquiao . Like you said, stuff that works great for him in other fights, wouldn't suit him against Manny. He's too stationary when he's put on the defensive, and has the habit of fighting in straight lines. You have to give Pacquaio lateral movement, or he's going to jump all over you. That and Floyd's over-cautious mentality, not willing to let his hands go with more then one punch at a time. You have to fight and move with Pacquiao. Have to be on your toes , active at all times. Your analysis is spot on bro :good
     
  2. Blizz42

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    Fans and critics truly underestimate Floyds defense, and how physically strong Floyd is. Mab has not fought Floyd. He doesn't know how strong Floyd is. If you cant box flatfooted against Floyd and beat him, you have no chance of winning, and Pacquiao cant box flatfooted as Morales and Marquez have exploited this.
     
  3. igotJUIC3

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    you have good analysis and im not saying anything your saying is wrong at all. in fact you actualy have good insight.

    i just dont believe Pac is equipped for the likes of Floyd. a pure boxer and he gifted on many levels.

    i also dont believe Floyd will be as stationary as some lead on. Floyd applies some good pressure and knows how to cut the ring off.

    i dont know its such an intresting fight hope it happens.

    i still feel people are severely underestimating how great Floyd is int hat ring and the things he can and have done.
     
  4. Blizz42

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    Not only that. Floyd adjusts in fights, so for those who think he'll stay stationary against a guy who gives angles, they're in for a rude awakening. Floyd is fast also.
     
  5. Bogotazo

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    I think at this point we should all give a big round of applause to everyone involved for being respectful and staying away from blind nut-hugging and rude comments while posting.

    On East Side Boxing.

    On Pacquiao VS Mayweather.


    I think I just shed a tear. It's so beautiful.
     
  6. Hook!

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    I just think that Floyd will always be able to adapt in the ring. HOWEVER pac can take advantage of a slow starting mayweather.
     
  7. boxbox

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    You crazy?? he's been given high praises with his defense. The guy told you how to get in that defense and you go all defensive and sensitive:patsch
     
  8. Bogotazo

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    When's the last time he adjusted by amping up his lateral movement though?
     
  9. Scar

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    Great thread, thanks for sharing.
     
  10. igotJUIC3

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    Hatton was the last time he HAD to use movement and he did so. Other than that NO ONE has forced him to use a lot of movement so why should he?

    Thats what im saying he only uses what is necessary its part of the reason why he is so economical and accurate...he is precise in what he does and uses what ever faucet he has to to negate what the other fighter does.

    Like he says and its a great point....in one of the 24/7's he said no fight is the same fight so he doesnt study film....he goes into the fight and makes the necessary adjustments...reasons why he starts slow....see what im sayin.

    I think Pac will have damn good success early especialy maybe rounds 1-4....once Floyd feels his speed and power and sees what he is doing and his rhthym......if he isnt KO'd by then....Pac is in for a nightmare.

    I have always said Pac's best chance is early...i still feel he may even hurt Floyd or buzz him early ala Mosley. But if he does not finish Floyd....he will not out box him 7 plus rounds in my opinion.

    Roach can't fight for Pac.....Floyd is his own Roach in the ring while fighting.
     
  11. Gander Tasco

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    ^ The point isnt whether or not he moves ,it's the way he defends himself . When Floyd gets attacked he plants his feet and goes into a shell. He becomes a stationary target. It's effective for him bc he's got a tight defense and he can pick off your shots really well, but against Pac it's a mistake. You have to move as Pacquiao is attacking , in and out of his rythm, the way Marquez did. Pacquiao eats you up if you don't move. He creates angles on you and rips you with combinations. This is what Barrera is talking about. It's the little things that make all the difference.
     
  12. igotJUIC3

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    i get your point...and yea i can see that being in issue IF Floyd didnt counter out of that shell when people open up and he does it VERY WELL and those shots hurt! Your not going to want to keep taking them...however...i do see that pac could also land something nasty....so...yea....
     
  13. Bogotazo

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    I think at some point in the early rounds, Mayweather decided to stop moving so much, and started to simply do his awesome work on the inside, beating Hatton at his own game. He moved in spots, but it wasn't really anywhere other than "away" or "backward." It wasn't a consistent lateral movement integrated with his offense. Like I said, if he's capable of doing it and does it because he needs to, then great, but it will be the first time (at least in a long while) he tries to constantly move to either side and match an aggressor's footwork. Even though he's always won, there are spots where he's looked vulnerable and stationary, and so we'll just have to wait and see how far he can stretch when making an adjustment.
     
  14. igotJUIC3

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    hmm see what your sayin...maybe the Corrales fight?
     
  15. Imperial1

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    Excellent thread and even better analysis by MAB ..Its Manny's constant movement vs Floyd timing basically ..Marco pointed out the advantages of both men ..He did give Floyd the edge in technical ability and Manny the edge in foot speed .For Floyd to win is has to be off the jab .For Manny to win he basically has to stay on Floyd and use his angles .Whats not to agree with ?