Marco Antonio Barrera

MAB was a badass and he is an ATG. Not sure about the ranking though.

 

ON the upside, MAB's loses to Jones are part of what made him the legend he became. Had MAB not made any adjustments and continued to fight the same way, his career would have stalled a lot sooner than it did.

 

He's top 50 to me. If he is top 5 of this generation, theres 10 generations over the course of 100 years (10years apart), then he will make top 50. Because if every top 5 of each decade was ranked above him, he would still come out 50th best. You could argue that on one decade there could be 10 fighters that are above MAB but yet on another decade, MAB could rank higher than the no.1 fighter of that decade.

 

some key comparison:

Barrera vs Hammed === Jones vs Toney
Barrera vs Morales 3x === Jones vs Tarver 3x
Barrera vs Juarez 2x > Jones vs Johnson
Barrera vs PAC 2x >> Jones vs Hill (should be DM) :hi:
Barrera vs JMM < Jones vs Ruiz
Barrera vs ??? == Jones vs Trinidad, Calzaghe, Hopkins

while Traver trilogy is joke comparing to Morales, Barrera has
no win like Jones vs Ruiz, Joneh hovever beside Toney never
fought anybody who was considered a man at his division.

So even Jones has more scraps fighting the likes of Hopkins,
Trinidad, Calzaghe (not yet) Barrera fought more serious competition.

 

Prime MAB is

 

How about MAB's opponents like Tapia, Ayala, Sanchez & mckiney? Sure tapia was past prime but Tito was far more past i.

 

One of my all-time favourite fighters. ESPN.com did an all-time top 50 list last year and Barrera came in at number 43.

 

:blood

 

Its an objective unbiased view of these things.

 

Right but the formula does not apply to boxing. It doesn't work like that.

 

I've undoubtedly left out a lot of fighters, but let's see how many you can rate Barrera over from this list. Maybe a few, but I seriously doubt you'll be able to eliminate enough to get down to 50.

Muhammad Ali
Larry Holmes
Lennox Lewis
Joe Louis
Rocky Marciano
Jack Johnson
Jack Dempsey
Evander Holyfield
Roy Jones Jr.
Michael Spinks
Bob Foster
Ezzard Charles
Archie Moore
Sam Langford
Gene Tunney
Harold Johnson
Tommy Loughran
Carlos Monzon
Marvin Hagler
Ray Robinson
Harry Greb
Bernard Hopkins
Jake LaMotta
Dick Tiger
Ray Leonard
Tommy Hearns
Mike McCallum
Bob Fitzsimmons
Stanley Ketchell
Tiger Flowers
Marcel Cerdan
Tony Zale
Gene Fullmer
Emile Griffith
Jose Napoles
Kid Gavilan
Barbados Joe Walcott
Henry Armstrong
Luis Manuel Rodriguez
Pernell Whitaker
Oscar De La Hoya
Felix Trinidad
Carmen Basilio
Aaron Pryor
Carlos Ortiz
Duilio Loi
Julio Cesar Chavez
Roberto Duran
Kid Lewis
Jack Britton
Fritzie Zivic
Wilfred Benitez
Joe Gans
Benny Leonard
Ike Williams
Tony Canzoneri
Barney Ross
Jimmy McLarnin
Billy Petrolle
Shane Mosley
Kid Chocolate
Alexis Arguello
Floyd Mayweather Jr.
Azumah Nelson
Salvador Sanchez
Willie Pep
Sandy Saddler
Vicente Saldivar
Wilfredo Gomez
Erik Morales
Manny Pacquiao
George Dixon
Freddie Welsh
Lou Ambers
Sammy Angott
Beau Jack
Bob Montgomery
Joe Brown
Ismael Laguna
Ken Buchanan
Abe Attell
Johnny Kilbane
Johnny Dundee
Freddie Miller
Panama Al Brown
Benny Lynch
Manuel Ortiz
Eder Jofre
Fighting Harada
Ruben Olivares
Carlos Zarate
Jimmy Wilde
Pancho Villa
Hiroyuki Ebihara
Miguel Canto
Pasqual Perez
Ricardo Lopez

 

Exactly. C'mon, that's like some PacDBest "Lewis beat him and he beat him and he beat him and Pac beat him so Pac could beat Lewis!" ****.

 

It should. If you're rating 20 fighters from 1 decade above the no.1 fighter of another decade, then dont you think its time to evaluate the situation and realise that perhaps you are either overrating or underrating one of the particular decades in boxing? Really you can only compare fighters to what they achieved in their era, and compare them to the other fighters in their achievements in their own era. Why for example should a fighter who was considered THE BEST in his era be ranked lower than another fighter who was perhaps considered 10th best in his era? When you do that, youre just rating one era over another which is far too subjective...not that ATG's & P4P list are too objective themselves.

 

Barrera was an AWESOME AWESOME fighter. One that will be remembered for a long time.


But I do agree with Sweet Pea. Jones is greater. And on an ATG list, kinda by a mile, too.

In fact, Jones is easilly a top 50 fighter of all time for me... And like Sweet Pea, Barrera is still only arugably top 100.

 

But it doesn't.