Marcos Maidana: Criminally Underrated Boxing Ability

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by walk with me, Dec 21, 2014.


  1. alexthegreatmc

    alexthegreatmc Sound logic and reason. You're welcome! Full Member

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    Algieri is H level, Rios is about D level. :deal
     
  2. boxing_master

    boxing_master Loyal Member banned

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    chris is better then that bum maidana
     
  3. kirk

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    Something about knowing that most of the praise maidana is getting now as a fighter is coming from mayweather fans trying to raise maidanas stock to justify 24 unimpressive rounds against him takes the shine off of what would otherwise be good points.

    I know for damn sure half of these posters who currently praise maidana would be ****ting on him and his resume if mayweather hadnt fought him.
     
  4. alexthegreatmc

    alexthegreatmc Sound logic and reason. You're welcome! Full Member

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    You're comparing two bums.

    Let the record reflect that I, alexthegreatmc, prior to Floyd's 24 rounds with Maidana, never gave Maidana a chance or shot in hell to win. Thus, voiding any and all such claims that I praise Maidana to raise his "stock".

    However, anyone who claims Maidana won or drew with Floyd, cannot claim cherry pick in the rematch. As any fighter who draws or beats another fighter is considered a legit threat.
     
  5. seansanashee

    seansanashee Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I doubt that.
     
  6. MrPR

    MrPR Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Maidana is a dangerous fighter . His punching power in both hands and strong mental power makes him a threat to any fighter @ 147 .

    Hes also improved and developed under the training of Garcia . He has a decent jab and a little more awkwardness to his game now .

    He doesn't get discouraged and doesn't care who you are .


    Dude is a warrior , whoever beats him should get credit period .
     
  7. MaliBua

    MaliBua Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    If anyone didnt already know it TS is one of the biggest Mayweather fan boy. Go figure...

    Maidana is rated just fine.
     
  8. walk with me

    walk with me Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Look man...

    if you hate floyd mayweather Jr. It's ok to just hate him, you don't have to come up with all these other crazy reasons or degrade other fighters in the process. If you can show me an image in his past 10 fights of Floyd Mayweather JRs face looking worst than this, then I will agree with you.


    http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y16/123walk/Screenshot2014-12-22at111153AM_zpsee9b34eb.png



    be respectful if you really love boxing and give credit where credit is due. It's pretty obvious from this picture that maidana broke floyds nose at did some good damage to his mouth.
     
  9. Rumsfeld

    Rumsfeld Moderator Staff Member

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    If you would have said "slightly underrated", I may have been willing to go along, even though I myself find him slightly overrated since his first fight with Floyd.

    The thing is, I think Maidana tends to be overrated by some, underrated by others, and I think in the end it all balances out nicely and that Maidana is more or less viewed exactly as he should be for what he is.

    Criminally underrated, though? No. Not at all.
     
  10. Rumsfeld

    Rumsfeld Moderator Staff Member

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    :yep
     
  11. Giggidy

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    Maidana gets more respect than Amir Khan on this forum lol. Why? Khan is clearly superior...probably why Mayweather is running scared of him.
     
  12. Rumsfeld

    Rumsfeld Moderator Staff Member

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    Khan is clearly superior? Then why the life & death debatable razor thin victory when they fought?

    :smoke
     
  13. DanishPride

    DanishPride Well-Known Member Full Member

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    A 40+ year old morales spanked him and you say he got underrated boxing abilities??
     
  14. walk with me

    walk with me Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I said this in my opening post bro. No need to be a jerk. I specifically said maybe its because he went against boxers or maybe it's because of his improvements with R. Garcia. I'm excited to see him fight again but IN HIS PAST 3 FIGHTS he does a lot of stuff people don't pay attention to.


    http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y16/123walk/Screenshot2014-12-22at111153AM_zpsee9b34eb.png

    there is footage somewhere on youtube of robert guerro explaining why they got rid of ariza. I think the boxers got sick of doing plyometric stuff and they just wanted to stick to boxing. They didn't go out on a sour note from what I rememebr.

    I'm not like other idiots on this forum. I love the sport of boxing before I am a floyd fan. Yes, I'm a floyd fan but I'm not afraid of giving other dudes props when they are deserved. If thats your mentality your not even a fan of boxing and you shouldn't even watch the sport any more.


    exactly.Thank you alexthegreat


    Look at these things for those who don't beleive me.


    - How Maidana set up the 2 knock downs vs Adrien Broner
    *Maidana set these shots up beautifully by using the long jab to the body kind of like floyd loves to do and got adriend worried about the body work. Then for the Knock down he fainted the jab to the body and came up over the top. Extremely intelligent

    - How maidana was able to Jab floyd & Broner
    *Maidana did a tremendous job of not really buying into floyd or Broners rhythm or traps. I'm not exactly sure if this is because he's extremely smart or because of his late start in boxing that he doesn't even realize that traps are being set. But either way vs these 2 guys he never really was getting beat to the punch badly. He's always very aware of what's coming at him and able to move or attempt a counter. Which is why the fights were competitive all the way vs the floyd and broner. Even in the blow out of the rematch vs floyd.

    - How Maidana mixes up his flurries
    * Maidana did this vs broner more because floyd didn't stand with maidana in the center of the ring too much but he does a good job of putting in work down low then coming back up top or vice versa and he can do it with both hands.


    I'm not ust making **** up. Go watch Maidanas last 3 fights. I also watched some devon alexander footage and DA honestly fought better vs maidana than floyd orAB did. Maidana looked more up for his last 3 fights but DA did a good job of boxing him from a distance and turning him and never backing up in a str8 line. Maidana is too big and has too good of a chin to back up in a str8 line against him

    Nobody currently in 147 would have put out broner that night, not even pacquiao. He was WAYYYYY to determined, Broner faught a HELL OF A FIGHT! Rounds 11 & 12 prove that when he came out guns blazing and didn't tuck his tail like a coward. Maidana just outsmarted him with the 2 knock downs and that set the tone of the fight.


    Without those two knock downs its a very close fight. Not to take away those KDs from Maidana but just saying if Broner avoided those we are looking a fight decided by 1 round or so.



    If maidana never fought floyd I would be able to say the same stuff about maidana due to his performance vs adriana broner. Look at the footage if you don't believe me. Look at how he set up knock downs vs broner. This isnt' easy stuff.

    It's not like broner is some chump they found off the street. Maidana is setting up legit traps to knockdowns vs world class fighters. Floyd didn't fall for any traps but maidana was still jabbing the **** out of floyd. Only guy to ever really jab floyd well was cotto.

    I didn't say criminally under rated as a fighter. if you ask 100% of the boxing public what maidana is 99% would say he's a crazy crude slugger who just throws wild punches but that's only half of what maidana is. Maidana has some traits of a boxer that go completely under looked. Look at some of the points I make in this post and go back to look at maidana vs broner if you don't believe me. In close quarters maidana brawls like a mad man but toe to toe he's far from a slouch.
     
  15. Rumsfeld

    Rumsfeld Moderator Staff Member

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    You said "criminally underrated boxing ability", so my point still sounds. "Slightly underrated boxing ability" - I could have went along with that, again, even though I think his skills are slightly overrated.

    And the reason I think his skills are being slightly overrated stem from the fact he was competitive with Floyd in their first outing and continued making Floyd look even more uncomfortable than we are accustomed to during the less competitive rematch. This, I think, has far more to do with Floyd slipping with age than Maidana being anything special.

    And who cares if Maidana has "some traits" that go completely overlooked? How in the world does that translate into him having "criminally underrated boxing ability"? The truth is a lot of boxers have overlooked skill sets. Look at George Foreman - there's a thread floating around about him saying he wouldn't be top 20 in today's heavyweight division! :lol:

    With Maidana's skills, abilities, and the overall package of him as a fighter - he's more or less rated exactly where he should be, skill-wise and as a fighter.

    :smoke