Marcus Browne vs Thomas Williams who wins?

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  1. UnleashtheFURY

    UnleashtheFURY D'oh! Full Member

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    Yeah he pretty much just held on for dear life in rounds 9 and 10, definitely should have had a point taken... Pretty sure in rd 9 he landed a blatantly illegal shot while holding on to one of Kalajdzics arms(wasn't a soft shot either) Anyways... Even with the bogus KD in rd 1, I don't see how anyone could make a case for Browne winning this, BEST case scenario is a draw.
     
  2. Russell

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    You mean rounds 7 and 8? :polutxoso:
     
  3. UnleashtheFURY

    UnleashtheFURY D'oh! Full Member

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    UnleashtheFURY D'oh! Full Member

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    I've watched Williams/White about 5-6 times today... What a shoot out lol.
     
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  5. BlizzyBlizz

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    Lol
     
  6. Russell

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    White is an underrated fighter. His issue has always been being caught early, and he has been in the past. But he also has two wins over guys who have challenged for world titles, Sukhotskiy and Marcus Oliveira. He's a solid enough operator. You really can't judge a top 15 guy for losing to the likes of Kovalev.

    Browne beat White as unconvincingly as anyone ever has. No one has ever had to take White to a decision to beat him, his other four losses are stoppages. On the flip side Williams got him out in one round, despite being caught along the way.

    Food for thought. Williams is a dangerous guy any which way you want to cut at it, and Browne's recent performances make you think. White is indeed a pretty chinny guy if you catch him, why couldn't Browne?

    Browne also couldn't rattle Kalajdzic despite landing some flush punches, and he also couldn't rattle badly out of shape, paper skinned Francisco Sierra.... which I've seen plenty of other fighters do. He landed dozens of flush punches on Sierra and couldn't do anything besides cutting him up, but that's no hard feat.

    Why didn't he outperform all these other guys he's supposed to be swimming in the same pond with, you know?
     
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  7. BlizzyBlizz

    BlizzyBlizz Loyal Member Full Member

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    There is no answer to what you're asking because that can be asked of every fighter. Bottom line is he gutted out a win against Kala and is now fighting Williams. If he can't beat Williams then he is done as a fighter imo.
     
  8. Russell

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    Some gambling thoughts for this upcoming weekend...!

    Bobby Gun opened around at +750 against Roy Jones Jr... a big dog. Within several hours he's in the +400 range. Funny money? I have no idea, but line movement this extreme is usually indicative of something being afoot.

    Also, a great fight to potentially bet on or toss in a parlay, Jose Felix Jr over Jonathan Maicelo at -240.

    Felix is the rightful favorite here at -240, but that itself is favorable because I feel that's a steal. Maicelo has a small amount of skill, and isn't a poor fighter. But I've watched the one geared, underwhelming Darleys Perez knock him down multiple times as he gassed, nearly stopping him. I don't know if he won more than two rounds in that match, if that.

    He was ahead against the plodding but big punching Rustam Nugaev (Who's fighting for the second time in two months in a few days! Interesting comeback going on there after a few years away from the sport) before being caught and cold cocked. No offense to Nugaev, but he's snail slow and fairly crude. Felix Jr has pretty fast hands, a whole lot faster than Nugaev and Darleys Perez.

    Maicelo has durability issues. Maicelo is also 9 years older here. Felix Jr is a much better fighter even if Maicelo was primed and not getting up there in age at 33. I wouldn't be surprised if the talented, and explosive Felix Jr blows Maicelo out of the water this weekend.
     
  9. rodney

    rodney Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Brown is a BUM. Not worth watching.
     
  10. Chuck Norris

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    Browne has his flaws, but he is not a bum
     
  11. rodney

    rodney Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Lots of flaws. Ok. Ugly to watch. Looked like dog meat last fight.
     
  12. UnleashtheFURY

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    I'd have jumped on Gunn there if I were a betting man... At this point Jones is so shot that even mediocre journeyman or sideshow attractions like Gunn have a VERY solid punchers chance. Remember when they were talking about a fight with Kimbo Slice or Anderson Silva? Well, provided Slice was still alive and Silva wasn't in the UFC I think both would have a good shot(especially Silva) at knocking out this incredibly shot version of Jones.
     
  13. Russell

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    He's dangerously old, considering the sport. I agree with your sentiments on the chin. Hard to get out of the way of shots at that age, regardless of the fact that Roy's mind is obviously fine at this point. He's going to have his own Bernard Hopkin's band playing him off the stage soon.

    James Toney dropped his last name to some Midwest level heavyweight fighter, I can't even remember the guys name. He was +800. Roy Jones was the favorite against Enzo Mac. These guys are still favorites based off of... I don't know. Fans familiarity with them, their big names.
     
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  14. Russell

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    He looked rancid. I thought he was going to be some powerful hybrid power/puncher looking at his record and from listening to people.

    Talk about a panicky guy in the ring who obviously isn't "in love" with the actual idea of fighting. He was spoiling like mad in his last fight.
     
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  15. CST80

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    @Russell

    Browne's power is vastly overrated, he benefitted from most of his recent opponents being thoroughly tenderized by far harder hitting EE fighters.

    Sierra just endured a vicious 5 round beating by Gvozdyk in which he suffered something like 5 or 6 cuts on his face, the cuts hadn't fully healed before he hopped right back into the ring against Browne, and even then he couldn't get Sierra out of there, the fight was conveniently stopped right when Sierra was starting to have success. Campillo had not only been thoroughly destroyed by Kovalev and stopped by Fonfara, but even in winning the match against Williams, he still took quite a few heavy shots, then the Beterbiev match finished him off as a fighter, clearly he wasn't ready to be back in the ring that quickly. And as I said before on the thread he couldn't stop or hurt Kaladzjic, and White, who was destroyed by Kovalev and yes by Williams, who he also dropped.

    Nice strategy Haymon has there isn't it, fed him the leftovers of Kovalev, Fonfara, Beterbiev and Gvozdyk, who of course he''ll stop quicker, because when he gets them they're shells.

    Browne can't seem to handle pressure, and doesn't seem to react well to guys with power, he isn't that tremendous a boxer, Williams has the edge there as well, so in every area Top Dog is slightly superior, if he can go 2 rounds with E-Rod and 4 with Stevenson, I'm pretty sure he can last longer against a non puncher like Browne, but the question is, can Browne last that long against Williams? I doubt it.
     
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