It's never that simple when it comes to PBF. Then people would have said PBF ducked the linear champ of the division to fight limited nobody in Margo.
Hindsight is always fantastic for you fools. The guy was loading his hand wraps. Everyone who fought him attested to his punching power. All the predictions and assessments based on his abilities considered this but did not consider (what none of us knew) that he was using loaded hand wraps. Now fast forward to today I doubt very many people think the exposed Margarito had a shot at beating Mayweather. If we knew then he was loading his handwraps nobody would have picked him to win. What we knew then was not what we know now. And a vast majority of that has little to do with balco boy.
While this is certainly true that hindsight changes a lot of things, and if I KNEW Margarito was going in with loaded wraps I'd give him a better shot, however if I only thought it was power(which I did, and until proven otherwise we don't know how long he was using it) I'd still think Floyd would win easily. It would look very different from a fight with Mosley. There'd be pot shotting, counter punching, movement...but it would still add up to a decision for Floyd.
ummm..this isn't 2006 man..get it right..floyd has already came back and DOMINATED THE NUMBER 2 AND NUMBER 3 GUY IN THE SPORT..ITS CLEAR HE NEVER DUCKED ANY OF THEM GUYS..HE MADE SMART BUSINESS MOVES... MATTER OF FACT I HEARD SOME IDIOT MAKE THE ARGUMENT THAT PAC FOUGHT THE GUY THAT BEAT SHANE THAT WAS 2007...THAT GUY THAT PAC BEAT WASN'T THE SAME GUY THAT SHANE FOUGHT... FLOYD WOULD TAKE ADVANTAGE OF PAC'S MISTAKES AND COUNTERPUNCH HIM ALL NIGHT..PROLLY STOP HIM IN 10 OR LESS:good
Yea but consider what kind of effect Margarito had on guys like Cintron, Cotto, Johnson, even Williams when he did touch Williams once or twice. For 147 Margarito was carrying a heavy punch. Even if he looked off balance or sloppy when he was doing it. He'd hit these guys once or twice and change the whole fight around. It is entirely plausible that he would have tagged Floyd at some point and those loaded hand wraps would have ended the fight.
Never understood people's fascination with this matchup and insistence that Floyd was ducking Margo. Mayweather would have connected at about an 85% clip against Margarito.
No question about that. But like I was saying, I(and I assume you as well) only thought it was power(though some pretty strong power especially in the uppercut) and accumulation, not loaded gloves. If I knew he had loaded gloves on, I would mark a big advantage for Margarito in that department. However, since I was only thinking it would be heavy handed punches and accumulation, I was favoring Mayweather because he could easily potshot, make people miss, smother, whatever he had to do.
Margarito would of had a better chance against PBF than Shane did last night... For some reason, fighters get figgety after a few rounds fighting Floyd... I think Margarito would have got hit with a lot of punches... Moreso than most Mayweather victims... But he would have fought on like it was still the first round.. Only wonder how we would handle a flush Margarito uppercut... When I think of these 2 together, I think of Mayweather/Chavez... Apparently really skilled boxers don't fair well against Floyd... He needs guys who come to fight for 12 rounds with less skills.... Guys like Margarito and Williams...
Not as many people wanted to see that fight as you might think. How much money was there? Margo could have done it as long as he snuck in his 38 super.
Exactly. The reason being that Margarito with his loaded hand wraps went at opponents fearlessly. The dude took everything Cotto threw at a frightening clip and eventually raped Cotto. Nobody really considers just what happens when Floyd hits this dude flush and all he does is grin and keep coming. Most guys freeze up when hit. Margarito never did that until he was exposed for his hand wraps. He had extreme confidence in those fights.
You can atsch as many times as necessary because if you know boxing, you know a limited club fighter isn't going to beat guys like Cintron X 2, Cotto, Clottey, and the other guys he beat. Last night you had a guy KNOWING he did not have roids or an EPO to help him in a fight.
Lets get one thing clear ******* Margocheato had been packing for a long time. There is no way in hell that was the first time he and his team tried that ****. Another thing, SSM would have whipped AM ass that night wraps or no wraps he completely took him apart. Floyd would dissect that unskilled tough man/barroom brawler and people would complain that AM was to slow and threw to many looping punches. AM would have not landed one clean shot and would like a rank amateur against PBF.
Even though I always believed Floyd would win, I still would like to see this fight, even now. But I guess Margo doesn't deserve the pay. Honestly. Margarito is a limited fighter, but lets be objective for one second. Mosley destroyed Margarito, but it's possible that he didn't give his best performance because of the handwraps incident. I'm not just talking about him not having the "concrete" in his gloves, but the psychological aspect and everything that was going on in his head. Everyone likes talking about the psychological aspect, but it doesn't apply to Marg because he's a cheater? It still does. Margarito has some qualities, the guy would take anything Floyd throws at him, he took a pouding from Mosley for 9 rounds. 2 Mosley shots had Mayweather almost out, Marg took so many of those it's not even funny. He has ridiculous stamina, and has a good workrate. More importantly, unlike Shane, Margarito is not afraid of getting countered, looking embarrassed about being KO'd or anything, he'll go in to win or get knocked out. I'd still like to see this fight. If it ends in a 12-0 UD for Floyd, then so be it. So what?