MargaCHEATo?

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by mrtony80, Feb 27, 2010.


  1. mrtony80

    mrtony80 Likes thick chicks Full Member

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    Okay, so I realize that this is old news, but the only reason I'm bringing it up is because I can't see Antonio Margarito's name brought up on these threads without someone caller him a cheater, or completely blowing off every victory he has ever had, most notably - the one over Cotto.

    I'm not defending the man, I just don't understand why some of you are so adamantly sure he has cheated multiple times. How can people ignore the fact that Cotto looked just as busted up after the Pacquiao fight than he did after Margarito? How can people ignore that he was walking around after the Cotto fight with his gloves off, and his wraps exposed for the world to see? Is that someone with something to hide would do? Is it really possible that Nazim Richardson is the ONLY one who noticed something suspect? With all the experienced wrap checkers in Marg's previous fights, Nazim is the ONLY one who did his job right? Please.

    Now, I don't know all the details, but from what I understand, only trace amounts of the components that make plaster was what was found...I could be wrong on that, but that's what I heard. But people have taken that little thing, and run with it. It is perfectly possible that Marg and co. knew what they were dealing with reagding Mosley, and attemtped to pull a fast one for the first time...a remote possibility, but a possibility nonetheless.

    My point is, what happened, happened. Maragrito took a viscious ass kicking the night he tried to cheat, and was banned for a year...he has paid his dues. Unless more evidence comes out, he should stop being crucified.
     
  2. Yuriorkisfan

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    Of course he should stop being crucified, I used to like his style a lot, I always thought he wasnt the best style fighter but now I hate him, I dont wanna se him anymore. In all sports there is corruption and hidden things we dont see but putting that plaster in his hands and acting like he didnt know, make things look worst because we are not stupid, his hands are always wrapped infront of his eyes. Its like the Cops program when they catch those dudes with mariguana in the jacket and they say, Oh this is someones jacket, Its the same thing.
    He could had cause some serious damage to someone if not he already cause it to Cotto and thats why people still angry at him.
    I never like cotto but I respected him because he was humble.
    Imagine if Cotto was your son or a family member or Mosley or you, ask yourself this question. What would you do if Margacheato wanted to do that to you?, Ask yourself and thats the answer
     
  3. kgs83

    kgs83 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Now you might have a point when you say this MIGHT have been the first time he cheated but that doesn't matter, once a cheater ALWAYS A CHEATER!!!

    And this isn't no small cheating like people might try when playing poker etc....this is boxing mate, a sport were people can DIE!!! He almost walked into the ring with loaded weapons....what if he caused permanent damage to Mosley.

    Would you be saying, 'he has paid his dues?' and 'he should stop being crucified?'
     
  4. boxsensei

    boxsensei Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Margo should be forgiven but that doesn't mean that they're aren't consequences to his actions. He got caught doing a despicbale thing and now he's getting wat he deserves. He's already made decent money anyway so there's no reason to feel sorry for him.
     
  5. D-MAC

    D-MAC Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Thats the price he pays.

    If you do it once then all your previous performance will be under scrutiny. Its a gimme.

    Cotto was very busted up and Sebastain Lujan had his ear ripped up. And this damage is from a guy who looks like he is throwing arm punches most of the time.

    Not saying he did cheat in these earlier fights, but its natural to assume and question given the situation with him now.
     
  6. Yuriorkisfan

    Yuriorkisfan Guest

    I thought Antonio Diaz was a great fighter but after the margo fighter he was never the same, all those questions are always in my mind. How long did he use loaded weapons?
     
  7. boxingfanneato

    boxingfanneato what would MORALES do! Full Member

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    welll nobody was in the dressing rooom for that fight. Cotto was able to take the shots of the guy that beat the **** outta Tony. so it wasn't a chin factor. he was bleeding from his eyes which doesn't happen(even in the ass whooping manny gave him) plus there was pictures that he had a pink substance in his wrap after the fight. did he do it? only really his trainor knows, atleast according to tony. But if his trainor did it for the mosely fight why not for the biggest fight of his career? makes no sense to not do it if he was to do it in his next fight.
     
  8. ricardinho

    ricardinho Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    People have forgiven Cheato Trinidad and Shane Mosley so get over it
     
  9. Yuriorkisfan

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    I forgave him but it doesnt sounds fair that he gets a comeback on the Pac vs Clottey undercard when for example Soto has been knocking everyone out and he doesnt get a shot. I am glad Soto got an oportunity
     
  10. elTerrible

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    hes an ******* and you would have to be extremely naive to think he didnt intentionally cheat

    In addition to the powdered plaster there were extra pads with blood already on them. Hes used them before and he knows that is not supposed to be there. I dont want to hear the same rehashed excuse every time someone fails a drug test or gets caught with a corked bat. They always know.
     
  11. Twirdman

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    Yeah but I mean with that line of thinking why did Mosley get no punishment. I mean I understand that what Margarito did was worse then Mosley hence why he took a year suspension. But Mosley doesn't even get his win against DLH revoked, that is crap.
     
  12. Think

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    Yeah, I have always wondered myself whether the Mosley fight was the first time he had tried to cheat to be honest. But regardless, he still tried. And it must be annoying for guys like Timothy Bradley that Antonio is already being mentioned to fight Pacman even though he has been off for a year for cheating. That must **** off every single up and comer that wants a shot at Manny. But I guess he was established before the ban. Not sure, I don't think its fair though.
     
  13. killa

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    The stigma Margo will forever have on him is enough punishment for a lifetime....and will last just that long.

    What nearly happened to Mosley will never happen again because of that stigma. Even when he does fight again, his case was well known enough where no Commission will be able to overlook his wraps. Not with all the media attention his fights will recieve.

    No one ever mentions this though: if Margo did load the gloves in the past then how come there are no documented patterns of facial fractures with Margo's past opponents? If a professional prizefighter with gloved fists that contain a hard plaster-like substance hits another man on the face(especially as much as Margo punches in his fights) then would there not be facial fractures? You could make a case using such reasoning that Cotto's gloves were loaded against Malignaggi and Branco because he did indeed bust their right cheekbones with his heavy left hook. There'd also be alot of busted ribs and damaged forearms with loaded gloves.

    Margo is heavyhanded and lands lots of punches. Any fighter wearing 10 ounce gloves that lands as many punches as he did versus Cotto will do damage like he did...especially against a man who's face busts up like Cotto's does. The Cotto fight was just a terrible beating due to a terrible style for Cotto. Good thing he didn't get to bring loaded fists in against Mosley.
     
  14. Yuriorkisfan

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    Mosley too, he got away too but I still think that Margarito got away with murder. I dont mind if they letting him fight but I think 1 year was a joke
     
  15. JASPER

    JASPER Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Don't you guys get it A$$hole Margocheato is the real victim . . . he was set up! Man give me a f'n break this guy should not be thinking about a come back he should be doing time. It really does not matter if he loaded in the past and that he did not bring those weapons in the ring . . . he tried to. Let the guy wrought in hell!