Margarito Ability To Take A Punch Will Win Him The Fight!!!

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by bonao, Jul 23, 2008.


  1. Amsterdam

    Amsterdam Boris Christoff Full Member

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    Who else with power did Cintron fight? And Cintron prior to it had issue's bigtime with Feliciano, just on styles. It's clear that pressure unravels him.

    He also had a war with the equally limited David Estrada, who has mid level power, but not anything damaging, and was stunned multiple times in the match.

    Address my other points. Everything that I posted in regards to the intangibles, styles and other factors has real legitimate relevance to the fight and no Marg fan, or anyone picking Marg is getting it. In fact, they have nothing other than the old 'Margs going to crakc his chin, keep throwing 1000 punches per round, come on late' routine, IGNORING the things that myself and others pointed out about his workrate reaction to being countered and his reaction to a guy who boxes and counters.
     
  2. 196osh

    196osh Mendes Bros. Full Member

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    I think that Cotto's boxing ability is going to pick Margo apart for one thing.

    I also think that Cotto does not have a bad chin at WW, also that Margarito does not hit hard enough to hurt Cotto to the head off one shot, and I do not see Cotto being hit with a great deal.

    The figt will be pretty competitive till mabye rounds 9 and 10 then Cotto will start to tee off and Margarito will get either stopped by the Ref or his corner will throw in the towel.
     
  3. Bazooka

    Bazooka Pimp C Wants 2 Be Me Full Member

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    He only repeats what Floyd boys say, Look if Tony was that sloppy a sloppy fighter is an easy win for PBF, obviously Floyd does not agree with them he knows better than to fight this "Sloppy" Fighter.
    The man is an all out warrior in the ring and carries himself that way, he isnt here to look pretty he isnt here to dance with the stars he is here to fight, he is here to give the fans what they want to see.
    something you newbies havent really had too much of a chance to see in recent years with the likes of Mayeather Spinks Byrd in the mix, saftey first fighters mean **** to the fighters of the 70's 80's and 90's and its good to see we have two throw back fighters facing each other.
     
  4. Amsterdam

    Amsterdam Boris Christoff Full Member

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    Yes and Cotto, the most damaging fighter in the sport, not the biggest KO hitter, but the guy who inflicts sickening injury to his opponents is going to have an open canvas to paint brutality on with Margarito.

    They even don't get that he will jab in and smother the guy, rendering him ineffective off of the backfoot and ineffective inside while ripping him to pieces as he starts slowly.:yep

    Plus, Marg's not proven sturdy to the body, wouldn't be shocked if Cotto landed a few rounds of vicious body work and he gets chopped down from that.
     
  5. Ambition_Def

    Ambition_Def **** the people. Full Member

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    Williams didn't clown Margarito. It was a close fight and Margarito had Williams rocked in the late rounds. Stop trying to revise history with your obvious bias.

    And sure he's open upstairs but for a reason. Nobody has yet ever hurt him to the point of discouraging him. Now downstairs? That is a different story. He protects his body very well. Ask Clottey, Williams, Santos and others how open Margarito's body was. There is a reason why they resorted to throwing punches to the head from a distance. They didn't wanna deal with Margarito's uppercut.
     
  6. Amsterdam

    Amsterdam Boris Christoff Full Member

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    Good analysis mate, Floyd's afraid of him so he must be elite, as well as he fights anybody and is a throwback, that solves the puzzle of him getting shredded by a precise fighter.:patsch

    And I also don't repeat the Floyd boys, I am not a Floyd fan, I detest Floyd ducking Cotto and I absolutely am expecting a ridiculous reaction to Cotto's one sided coming win over Marg because people can't understand basic factors here and will be shocked.

    Cotto will not show improvements as he is in his peak, Mosely exposed flaws in that peak, because Mosely is an awesome fighter and still top level... Marg will expose no flaws in Cotto's game because he cannot and I pointed out why.
     
  7. TFFP

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    One of the biggest questions going into this fight, from all observers, is how is Cotto going to fight? Why is that? It's because he's a well rounded fighter, that can approach it any number of ways. Nobody even asks what Margarito is going to do, because he's predictable as ****. Not always a bad thing if you are great at what you do, but lets not pretend like he ain't predictable when he does the same thing all the time.

    His defence is just bad. There is no rhyme or reason for it being like that, its just bad, and it will (and has) cost him.
     
  8. Zakman

    Zakman ESB's Chinchecker Full Member

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    You may be right. And of course I understand that Cotto is superior technically, really in most facets of the game. But the superior fighter does not always win, particularly when they have problems with punch resistence.

    I understand that I'm going out on a limb here, but I really think Margarito, however limited he may be, is gonna upset the odds here. I think Cotto, although a good fighter, is greatly overrated by some, and the disparity between him and Margarito, while there, is not as great as many believe - not so much because Margarito is that great, because Cotto isn't as great as people make him out to be.
     
  9. surreal deal

    surreal deal Liverpool via Krypton Full Member

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    Overall i agree.
     
  10. Amsterdam

    Amsterdam Boris Christoff Full Member

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    So if Marg gets utterly trashed, it's because of Marg equally as much as Cotto then?:nod
     
  11. Ambition_Def

    Ambition_Def **** the people. Full Member

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    They don't comment on his style because Margarito really doesn't have a style. He just fights on instinct. He isn't predictable as I've pointed out many times prior.

    Ask yourself why and how Clottey, Santos, Williams, Lewis, Diaz, Cintron, Kyvelos, Johnson, etc al took damage from Margarito. Surely if he were so predictable at least one of these guys would have made him miss all night, right?

    Contrary to that nobody has made Margarito miss all night. He got to each and every one of those guys. And that is because nothing he does is predictable. He may lead with an uppercut, he may lead with a jab, he may lead with a right hand. It all depends on what he feels like doing at the time. It doesn't always lead to good results but in essence it is anything but predictable.
     
  12. BOGART

    BOGART Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I agree with this. Cotto is a more well rounded fighter and I think he does better against the rest of the welterweight field. But Margorito matches up well with Cotto and I see him pulling off the upset.
     
  13. BoxingGuru

    BoxingGuru Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Actually Margarito was stunned by Clottey. He was taking a beating in that fight until Clottey hurt his hand. Say what you want, that is the facts.
     
  14. Bazooka

    Bazooka Pimp C Wants 2 Be Me Full Member

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    Please Margarito was not stunned by Clottey get ****ing real the man stopped fighting after the sixth round after having a good 3 rounds, Get out of here with that fake as story telling Bull****.
     
  15. Ambition_Def

    Ambition_Def **** the people. Full Member

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    Yea it took Tony falling into Clottey's counter right and he still only had Tony stunned for a second or two. It had no impact on the fight whatsoever.

    As Bazooka said, get over it.