Margarito and pavlik ???

You must be ****ing new to this sport, Vargas was suspended and fined you ****ing idiot

 

Actually, Roy tested with elevated test levels, no steroidal substances were found. And i'm sure you're no scientist or nutritionist, but having a plaster type substance in your handwraps is much more of an advantage than one steroidal cycle, EPO is not even a steroid. And at the time I believe EPO was not on the list of banned substances.

James Toney however, was proven as using nandrolone which is why he faced the penalities he did. FACTS WIN!

 

Truth is, you guys hate Margarito becuase you saw him fight the best, Something Floyd didnt have the balls to do, you heard him being refered to as a Warrior even in defeat, something you will never hear Floyd be labled as.

You have heard HBO say Floyd Mayweather Jr turned down 8 Million dollars becuase he didnt want to fight this guy, things that just get under your skin, that is why the hate, you cant say you dont like to watch Margarito fight, that would be a lie, you cant say he hasnt fought the best that is another lie.

The only thing you can do is continue to press forward with your hate towards this man becuase he put Floyd on front street face to face and Floyd **** himself like the ***** he is, knowing that Mayweather didnt have the balls to fight him, Tony went about getting to the top the old school way, he had to fight everybody there was to get there and he did so.

Yes he hit a bump in the road with Williams but he rebounded with a much bigger win in Cotto and he captured two major world titles along the way.
Williams moved up in weight big ****ing deal so the rematch didnt happen.

Why didnt Hopkins try to rematch that Cruiser weight who beat him in his first fight:think Perhaps its cus Hopkins was scared, I mean he was so ****ing pissed off at his promoter for that he fired him and never once dared to rematch that man.

Why didnt Ali try to avenge his loss to Larry Holmes? I guess Ali was scared to huh?

 

Kelly is a way better fighter than Margo and can come back from getting beat. I'm sure he'll be back an better than ever just like Hopkins said he's still young. However this won't be the case for Margo who's old especially with his style and this whole cheating thing will ruin him, he's done. Margo fans have no one to blame but his fans had they not been so arrogant people wouldn't be so quick to rush to judgement but due to their unsavory behavior here at ESB he's being villified. This thread is pathetic it's a pity party for Margo fans and quite frankly Freddy you should be ashamed of yourself for even starting it.

 

Here just for you dip ****

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Jesus Freddy. I used to watch your show, respect your opinions and ****, but that some old horse **** of an opening post right there.

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What you and others fail to realize is that what PBF did at 147 doesn't make him. How hard is that for you to understand? PBF was an ATG before he ever fought at 147.:deal He has had a career Margo and you nuthugging fans wish Margo had.:hi: At the end of the day PBF will be a HOF ATG and considered one the best of his era and Margo will be remembered as the limited cheat who loaded his gloves to beat up on smaller men and who got his ass kicked by Shane.hi:

 

shane, roy, toney, vargs

have nothing to do with the original question that was asked

 

Hey pal, nice document. But the truth is roy tested positive for elevated test levels that were attributed to his using Ripped Fuel by twinlab which at the time may or may not have had androstenedione hidden in it. Consequentally Richard Halls tests came up to have twice as many traces of androstenedione in it.

This prohormone was legal, and hidden in many sports supplements in and around that time. Roy Jones jr, unlike james toney, has never been proven to use a known anabolic steroid. So please save yourself thae hassle of posting this crap, I could make a document like that in ten minutes on photoshop, it doesnt prove anything.

 

The document says nothing about ripped fuel it says steroids Richard Hall also tested positive as well. stop cutting corners and making excuses own up to the ****

 

I dont think it has a lot to do with race. Mexicans are loved by boxing fans for their heart, style, fearlessness. I think Margarito is a similar case to Klitschkos. People think that he has an advantage over opponents because of his size, despite some obvious flaws, he can win fights with his other assets like heart and relentlessness and thats why they hate him.

Another thing when comparing MArgarito and Pavlik. Margarito doesnt get the fights that he wants and the big money fights, Pavlik does, so Margarito complains about fighters not wanting to fight him and thats what fans dont like about fighters.

 

Im just telling you what the official outcome was. And what I stated is such.

 

I agree. But don't tell that to Margo fans they'll overlook it or act like it never happened. Bob Arum is the biggest reason why PBF-Margo PBF-Cotto didn't happen PBF agreed to fight them both but Arum undervalued PBF and low balled him. PBF said **** you Arum he knew he was worth more by him being P4P #1 and made more in two fights with Baldo and Oscar than he did his whole career.