Margarito fought better quality opposition than Mayweather.

My argument is that Margarito even though he's garbage doesn't get as much credit for facing Pacquiao because he was so much bigger. I mentioned Mayweather Marquez because Marquez was also a top p4p fighter yet people dismissed Mayweather's win because of the size difference. My point is that if the Marquez is not considered a quality a opponent because he was smaller, then neither should Pacquiao for Margarito since Pacquiao was much more smaller than Margarito than Marquez was too Mayweather.:deal

You gave Mosley. I'm saying DLH was better than Williams. That's 2. And I'm saying that Marquez and Pacquiao should be comparable maybe a slight adv to Mayweather. Therefore their resumes are about equal over the last five opponents.

 

So why then did he ask JMM for a tune-up fight at 144 then eventuaslly at 146?

There are hell more fighters at the 140 range that could hurdle the weight difference. JMM is not exactly a "tune-up" fighter.

What exactly is it supposed to showcase? That he is faster than the older JMM at a weight that JMM is sluggish? That he can take a punch of a 135 pounder?

He does not even need to do the fightt and I already know those! It just makes his resume look badder.

 

You have to take into account the experience of some of these fighters too. Martinez only had 16 bouts at that time. Taking into account his lack of experience, this was not tougher opposition than Baldomir. DLH and Williams is another somewhat debatable one, for similar reasons. The others I agree with.

 

Interesting.. I was thinking if marg fought odlh too, and lost.

 

I thought JMM asked him...not the other way around. It would showcase his skill after a two year layoff, and give JMM an opportunity to showcase his ability to perform at WW. Who knew he would be "sluggish" at the weight? JMM could've chosen from any of the other 147 lbers, as well. But, this choice made money...so it made sense.

So, now Floyd takes ALL the blame, for JMM not being able to compete with him? If Manny could go up and fight a 147 lb man, and Oscar fight someone Pac's size, why is it wrong for JMM to move up and try to do the same, and for Floyd to accept that challenge?

 

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EXACTLY!! everyone was calling mayweather to fight baldomir when he signed for judah. they where like ''why dont you fight baldomir?'' everyone considered him a great opponent until mayweather schooled him to death then he was just a nobody! do people out there honestly think mayweather doubts, or has ever doubted himself, against margarito or cotto?

people have called mayweather to fight...

cotto
margarito
paul williams
mosley
hatton


... he fought and schooled 2 of them, then people say they where overrated or old so thats why he won! as for the other 3, they have all recently lost popularity and so people dont wanna see floyd in with them now. instead, MARTINEZ seems to be flavour of the month so now people wanna see floyd fight him (providing pac doesnt come off).

even if floyd beats martinez, people will say ''he was never a great champion anyway. fight berto you coward!''. OR, even if he fights and beats pacquiao, people will say ''pac would have ****ed him up 2 years ago. hes 32 now and isnt the same pacquiao!''.

this may sound over the top to you, but you know its the truth!! Floyd will continue to get **** on forever and ever!! his arrogance doesnt help him, but theres no denying, whatever way you try and twist it, floyd mayweather is one of the greatest champions of the last decade!!! :deal

 

Pure 100% dribble! :verysad

 

True...but, he was not smarter. And he doesn't really use his physical advantages, as he should...a sign of inexperience. I'm not saying the 2007 ODLH was a monster. He was not prime. But, I'm just saying the disparity between the two, at that particular time, may not be as great as some would like to think.