Not at all. What I'm saying is that the gauze that was in the photographs was obviously second hand at least as it had blood on it - It had obviously been used before, and that there is a POSSIBILITY that it had some plaster on it - Also - Mr Putting words into my mouth - Read this ****ing line again - So I'm clearly saying it's illegal and agreeing with the sanction. You accuse me of not thinking about what I wrote, I accuse you of not being able to read a simple sentance. In summary: A) Marg/Trainer/both - ****ED up and are wrong. B) I wonder if the excuse tabled by the trainer that it was a pair of wraps used by someone else is accurate because there was blood on the gauze even though he'd only had one hand wrapped at that time - Is accurate. PURELY to establish FACT. It's not an excuse that is valid I will quote my original post for you again You guys are as priceless as the defenders.
margarito.."most feared man" lol no wonder. Manos de plaster:rofl fake punching power, i feel so bad for cotto i think he should have been still undefeated right now
and those ****ers will let him watch JCC bust a nut over MArgo's next fight being schedualed in TJ:yep
OMG..If they had plaster on them that means that he must have used plaster in the past..It just didnt appear..Unless your going to try and tell us that he was doing papier-mache crafts in the locker room after he got his hands wrapped.:rofl Thing is its never ok to use the stuff, so it should never be on the wraps, if it got there it got there because someone put it there with the intent of using it to cheat..One could say that Margo did know about it, but that is naive, of course he knew.
Tell that to Fernando Vargas... That's like saying Tyson got convicted for **** while your avatar boy there just had a better legal team. Again - Not helpful thought - The sports administration needs to look to address this issue at a level ABOVE pointing to past discretions. Tito's retirement for 18 months or whatever it was kept him out of the commissions office.
You are a ******. You called me out on saying it was OK or an excuse and you're still trying to have a go. AGAIN: Quote: To me, the telling line was in the article in the other thread - "in the rules it says you're only allowed tape and gauze" - Bottom line - A monumental ****up at best, criminal at worst. What I'm saying is that the EXCUSE offered by the trainer is that they were used by another fighter and he had to use them again - I'm NOT saying it's a valid excuse - I just want to understand all the facts because this is a serious issue. How's this for a amatuer courtroom scenario. Mexican fighter A has a tough sparring session, gets frustrated and as he's unwrapping punches a wall and puts his hand through it. Like a wall with gyprock as us Aussies call it and I believe you call it drywall in the USA. The wraps then get thrown in a bag and end up in Margarittos change room, with dried blood and plaster on them. IT"S NOT WHAT I THINK HAPPENED AT ALL - But it's every bit as ridiculous as suggesting that he had a "paiper-mache'" set of brass knuckles fashioned in his gloves. Unlike you guys, I am interested from the point of view of not defending/excusing the action: As to have possession of the facts as to work out a way to move forward as a sport.
Or maybe its because Tyson did the **** and Kobe didnt..Only people that thinks that Kobe did it are those that dont know sh*t about it...Even the girls parents didnt believe that Kobe raped that chick. That is off the point..Bottom line is Tito used an illegal wrap process and not an illegal substance..If you had to pick from taken one off the coconut from Tito with some extra tape or Margo with plaster which would you pick???
Key word highlighted. Not baiting - On point - What I said in the petition thread - Needs to be handled at a higher level by the sport.
very unlike that Plaster would be used in a locker room..That is an excuse, not a very good one but its one... Most likely thing is that they used the **** in the past and got away with it, tried to use it again and got caught. Anything eles is naive.. Yeah you can sell all the "Im looking for the truth" **** you want no one is buying. Looking for the truth isnt thinking up ways to excuse what happened. You can dress the pig however you like its still a fat pig... To me its a done deal, no more needs to be said as to what happened how the plaster got there, its all bull****. He tried to cheat he got caught end of story. Margo knew, Plaster weights more then a dry wrap and margo would have felt the extra weight, if he didnt know he would have questioned why it felt heavy..There is no one saying that Margo questioned the wrap, leading one to believe that he knew.
Weed and crack are both illegal, but if you get caught with a half of ounce of weed you will be out in time for dinner with the 8 and 10 year old kids, you get caught with a half a ounce of cane you'll be out in time for your kids wedding dinner. Not the same but both illegal.