I think for grown men to come out and say, 'where are those punk ass Margarito fans now", which has been said numerous times on this thread, is immature and should be addressed. The General Forum is tainted with non-sensical fools, we all know that, but that doesn't mean I cannot bring it to peoples attention. We don't need to use this as a weapon against honest Boxing fans like freddy and Divac. Margarito is guilty of cheating, those two were only guilty of staying neutral until there was an official conclusive statement brought to the table.
He's been posting that same ****ing picture of the confiscated item every hour on the half hour to this point to insinuate it didn't look like anything serious. He made the thread about getting off the phone with the CSAC and everything being "officially concluded" -- dude give it the **** up. I have respect for his FINALLY (and I do mean FINALLY, AT THE VERY END OF THE ROAD) coming to the realization there was something illegal there, but don't try and say he never denied it.
This makes margo look guilty imo as a fighter would notice gauze with plaster of paris on in the glove.
Freddy-Wak's informed opinion caused him to believe Margarito was unaware of the inadequacies with the gauze. He clearly did his research, unlike the majority of posters on ESB, it just so happens that he was wrong. Who wast he first person to admit it? Freddy-Wak.
i was posting that picture to back up margo's claims that he didnt know ****....as of the other day, i said even if it comes back positive i would still believe margo...now, it hit me and it hit me hard that it really is hard to believe margo.... i never said anything was concluded with the csac, all i said was i got off the phone with them and they said it never got hard, and that the results weren't in yet cause many poster thought they might of been, but were just staying quiet about it..... either way bro, say what you want it's all good :good
LET ME REPEAT FOR YOU AGAIN: His thread about the CSAC, his posting of the confiscated item, had to do with his denial there was anything illegal in his wraps, NOT WHETHER MARGO WAS COMPLICIT IN THEIR USE. That's what people were frustrated with -- his lack of objectivity in the face of the fact they were obviously confiscated for good reason. Whether or not Margarito knew about it is a whole other subject entirely
I will say you take your lumps like a man, which is more than I can say for a lot of the others on here.
Objectivity? Are you ****in' serious? What would the General Forum know about being objective? His posting of the illegal hand wrapping was to show all of the Boxing fans on this forum exactly what had been taken into custody. That one picture had more credibility than any single poster on this forum, or anything Dan Raphael had to say on ESPN. We look at the picture, and came to our own conclusions. It's not as if Freddy-Wak edited the photograph to evoke a certain reaction, he merely posted visual evidence. What the hell is wrong with that? Who are you referring too? I've already admitted that Margarito should be banned for life, but I don't need to take any "lumps" off anyone on here.
Yeah. totally. Becuase that picture really discribed the hardness of the substance, or what it was comprised of. Nevermind the testimony of those who actually examined/touched it, confiscated it, have experience in the sport, etc. Hey, I can take a ****, stir it a few times in a bowl, and post a picture of a new "delicious chocolate smoothie!" I guess that would be totally credible as well, because it's a photo.
you know, when i started getting heavily involved in this it was never to sound how you say i sounded...but i understand why many feel/felt that way against me, so no hard feelings for anybody.... but understand one thing, i did this for all of us here, i did this for the face of boxing....nobody else was doing anything about it, and when margo started getting grilled right away, it just made me react like that....i mean, as a die hard boxing fan and voice of the future generation, i felt that we shouldn't hang the fighter right away, i mean there is many men in charge of these fighters, but only the fighter gets in there and spills his guts, blood, pride and sweat all for a little glory, cause we all know money only takes you so far..... but anyways, that was my 1 and only reason for it...but again, if ya'll wanna torch me and flame me for it go right ahead, i was simply standing up for what i believed in, and in the process i never tried to change anybodys mind, i just simply wanted to stick together with those many thought was impossible to do so with......:good
Dan Raphael lost credibility when he suggested Margarito had cheated against Miguel Cotto. It's one thing for a forum member to express their opinions, but he used his position as a respected columnist to express his own personal opinion. That's not what he gets paid for in situations like that. I'm not goign to get into testimony's. We all know what Shane Mosley, who was actually there, had to say regarding the issue. I'm sure I don't need to para-phrase. I have no idea what you were rambling on about afterwards.