Margarito! Suspension! Past offenses?

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  1. divac

    divac Loyal Member Full Member

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    Again people are getting all riled up in a frenzy trying to tie a knot around Margarito's neck without so much as a hearing on the matter.

    The commision says foreign matter, but they have'nt come out and said what it was that Margarito was carrying in his wraps.

    The decision by the commission to suspend Margarito and his chief trainer was just a formality to calm down those who are pressing them on the issue.

    It appears by the suspensions that Margarito and his chief trainer knowingly and deliberately violated handwrapping protocol......

    What the commision has yet to make public is the extent and danger of the violation........Margarito's chief trainer is going to have to explain in that hearing how and why he did it..........

    We dont actually know if it was really a foreign substance in those wraps, or just Margaritos trainer rolling up, wetting, and tightly compressing some ordinary gauze to the point where it felt hard........

    Either way, what they did was against the rules, but the latter violation of compressing the gauze would likely come with just a minor suspension of probably a year or less plus a fine.

    The key is going to be what the inspector who signed off on Margarito's wrapped hand has to say......
    That inspector will likely get permanantly fired no matter what they find was the substance used.

    I'm going to hold my judgement on Margarito and his trainer until the full investigation is complete and see what both Margarito and his trainer have to say on the matter.

    I'll tell you the truth, I'm rooting for it to be just rolled up compressed gauze in those wraps, to which if a trainer was rolling up a fighters hand and was allowed to get away with it by the inspector??????
    In this situation one might not accuse the Margarito camp of criminal intent, it being just extra gauze......

    .......but if it turns out to be some form of plaster in there??:patsch:-(

    I just find it so hard to believe that in that high a profile fight that the Margarito camp would risk getting caught with plaster.....this type of an offense is more suited for B level non-profile promotions where if the other side objected to the way a fighters wrapped his hands, the inspector could just tell the objecing side to go **** themselves, without suffering any consequences......







    ......and really think about it people, be honest with yourselves and just dont form hateful opinions based on Margarito having whipped or embarrased your favorite fighter in some way.......
    .......If Margarito is found guilty of whatever.....how likely is it really that he did it in past fights??????

    The Cotto fight was in Vegas where there is a different boxing commision all together.
    How likely is it that both the California State athletic commission, and the Nevada commission were both on the take to benefit Margarito......because lets remember here now, these inspectors are signing off that Margarito is wrapped legit.
    To accuse Margarito of past offenses is to say that he's got every commision in every state he's boxed in wrapped around his little finger.


    ......and really, if both those commissions were on the take, do you seriously think that its only the Margarito camp doing this?????

    Let me tell you something.....if this is'nt the first time Margarito has seriously violated wrapping protocol, I got news for you..... these wrapping violations are running rampant out there.....and other high profile fighers and trainers are doing the same exact thing.


    The finality of this whole mess, whether its plaster or plain compressed guaze as the finding........is that as a boxing fan, none of us are going to come out feeling good about the state of the sport and its corrupt shenanigans........because when you think about it, the California state athletic commision is leading the investigation.......there interest is to protect the integrity of their commission.....and how can they complete an unbiased review of the happenings if one or more of their own were in on the flagrancy????


    These are serious accusations being bestowed upon Margarito.......for the sake and safety of past and future fighters, why in the hell has'nt the FBI overstepped the CSAC and taken over this whole investigation.


    Boxing's higher ups....the ones that wear the coats, ties, and suits, all stink. They all freakin stink and I'm freakin mad about it.......

    Where is freakin John McCain when boxing really needs him.......

    These freaking investigations have to go to the federal level because boxing has freakin gone out of its freakin mind.

    They want to lay the full blame on the fighters and trainers, but what needs to happen here is that these damn athletic commissions all need to be investigated at the federal level and taken down!!!!:twisted:

    I'm freakin out of my mind mad that I got to get the **** out of here!!!!
    :fire:fire:fire:fire:fire
     
  2. Capitan

    Capitan Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    So, whats your point?
     
  3. macho0208

    macho0208 Aspira Boxing Gym Full Member

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    oh?? i'm getting kinda sick of this margarito defense stuff, he got cough he, got cough let it go.
     
  4. Zakman

    Zakman ESB's Chinchecker Full Member

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    Finally, a voice of SANITY. This place is a haven for witch-hunters and others who presume an ACCUSATION or a TEMPORARY suspension constitute "proof" of guilt. It's sickening.
     
  5. eliqueiros

    eliqueiros Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I'm trying to suspend my judgement until investigation clears as we all remember the Trinidad controversy. But if this is true I only feel bad for fighters such as Cintron and Cotto.
     
  6. PH|LLA

    PH|LLA VIP Member Full Member

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    sorry i don't have the necessary attention span to read all that
     
  7. Zakman

    Zakman ESB's Chinchecker Full Member

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    Why?? This investigation won't prove ANYTHING about those fights. Nothing.
     
  8. hmi

    hmi Boxing Addict Full Member

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    divac, if Margarito is found guilty, what punishment do you think he should get?
     
  9. BlueApollo

    BlueApollo Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    A little out of control, but I agree with most of it.

    A lot of people are using this finding to fuel their own little vendettas, without much factual basis for what they are saying. This episode is a already enough of a black eye to the sport without all of these silly proclamations being mouthed off.

    When the investigation is complete, we will know what happened this past Saturday.

    The good that needs to come of this situation is threefold. Commissions need to better train their observers in hand wrapping technique. Trainers and teams need to learn to be extra vigilant of illegal practices, and be ready to call out infractions instead of being "macho" about it and saying nothing, or just being too ignorant to realize what is happening. And if Margarito committed any kind of unfair or even illegal action, he must be punished severely enough to deter fighters from similar actions in the future.

    The rest of this is nothing but a tar and feathering.
     
  10. Toopretty

    Toopretty Custom made Full Member

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    :lol:
     
  11. Radar

    Radar Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    It will cast very deep shadows. That's just the way life works.

    And as I have patiently explained to you, a foreign substance has now been confirmed to have been bagged from his wraps. You do understand the rules of the sport, right? I am starting to wonder. Where TF is your self-righteous indignation that anything other than tape and gauze was found in his wraps? If you're on some almighty trip, my friend, then maybe it's time you stepped onto the correct side of the fence. Forget this **** about mitigating factors depending on the purity of the plaster dust. :lol:
     
  12. Symphenyceo

    Symphenyceo Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    My only thing is this, His trainer already admitted that what ever the commission took was hard. He said it was two week old gauze that was prepared. He said it was hard from humidity. Well if he knew it was hard why did he go and put it in the wraps?
     
  13. Capitan

    Capitan Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Then get off this haven site for witch hunters!!!!!

    You have been on this site for the past 24 hours non stop defending Margie....
    He has to be happy with you....maybe you get raise ehh.
     
  14. fatcity

    fatcity Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Absolutely correct.The Vegas supervisor who observed the Margo hand wraps signed off on it by initialling the wraps.Ergo:Margo is cleared of any wrongdoing for the Cotto fight.Inuendo's by ******s who smell conspiracy or linking are out of their minds.
    In fact,nothing has been proved about the Mosley fight,to my knowledge,other than the wraps texture was not what the commission would allow,so Margo merely had his hands re wrapped.No harm,no foul.
    Get over it.Should the commission find a hint of cheating they shall act accordingly.
     
  15. divac

    divac Loyal Member Full Member

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    My point is that most of this forum is clueless!

    They're pointing fingers and wanting to hang Margarito, while having nothing to say about the culprits (boxings higher up's, a proven corrupt identity) who have let it get this far.:?