Margarito unable to obtain Texas License?

Margarito IS getting a second chance. He's being allowed to re-apply. It doesn't mean he automatically will be reinstated however.

 

Agreed. 100%.

 

Yes, and if nobody found it, he would make a hell of a lot more after he KOed Mosley

He got only 3 months for the first time... he was in the ring 5 months later.

Look back in the tread, somebody posted a link to the original hearing and conviction!

Yes hence 'initial suspension' in my post.

Is it such a big leap... if you look at anyday life you know what happens if persons get light punishments for doing the wrong things... They are a bad example and pull many more with them over the line!
It's a problem we face in Holland for a while now by being soft on crime and such.

Yes, under the same token... see my last reaction.

 

The thing people seem to be missing is that they had the clear opportunity to banish Margarito to Mexico for life and they dropped the ball. The NSAC shouldn't be getting off scott free on this one and for us to just focus on Margarito is not seeing the forest through the trees.

It's entirely possible more is in the story than what we've been told. I wish the entire trial hearing and the case would've been aired in full. Truthfully though there isn't much to be withheld here, either he did it with intent or he didn't do it.

 

But it's relatively obvious he's not going to get a second chance to box again, specifically if what we're reading is true (The NSAC voting 7-0 to not reinstate him), he's not going to get re-instated.

At the same time, look at it like this gentlemen:

What's going to change between NOW and 5-10 years ago that would make them give him a license? There's really nothing that's going to change if all the facts have been presented? It's not a second chance if it's predetermined. You don't bet on Pro Wrestling because people know who's going to win, know what I mean?

To me they should've just banned him outright. To give him a pending "maybe could be sort of" suspension shows how awful the NSAC has handled this entire thing. Not only that of course but somewhere at some point, SOMEBODY in the United States is going to wilt and give the dude a lisence. Happened to Tyson and happened to Holyfield...somebody will give in. How disorganized does boxing look then if somebody is banned in one state but allowed in another? Either ban him for life or reinstate him with some semblance of probation. Simply put.

 

I don't think this is true at all. I think they just had a look at the situation and decided that 1 year (with it still being pretty fresh in the memory) is just too damned soon. I'd bet he gets reinstated within the next two years.

 

Irrelevant really.

Toney was suspended twice though which was what I was trying to point out. His situation is entirely different.

It is a big leap. Nobody is going to look at Margarito's suspension for a year, loss of public face and the general disintegration of his life and want to do the same thing.

And since we're on the topic (I guess?), it's been backed up through numerous studies that legal punishment isn't a deterrent factor in most cases. So if somebody is going to do something illegal like padded gloves, They're going to do it regardless of what happened to Margarito.

 

What's going to change in two years? Other than time?

He did something illegal, reprehensible even. If one year isn't enough time then there's no reason to realistically believe 5 years is enough time for him to "learn his lesson".

 

Arriba, does a convicted criminal, with a chance at parole 10 years from now automatically get let go after those 10 years are up? No. Like I said, Marg has been lucky to be even given a chance to re-apply. Some criminals get put away with no parole.

 

Actually one thing we see is that there really SHOULD be one federal boxing regulator who can preside over these matters. The fact that Margarito can be banned in one state and allowed to perform in another is probably as intriguing as this entire discussion has been.

And it has been a great discussion FWIW.

 

Agreed

 

I think Capetillo falling on the sword( so to speak, he said he only used old pads, which clearly isn't the case) helped Margo get off without a more serious punishment. Margo can always deny knowledge, and has. Whether you buy that or not is a different story. I think the CSAC is making a statement by not granting his license immediately, but showing that he may get a 2nd chance. Have you had a chance to read the links to the hearings I posted?

 

If this was the equivalent of a serial killing to boxing (since we're discussing extremes) then that's the punishment he should've gotten. You don't give a serial killer a life sentence then decide once a year to review it. What's going to change? "Yeah in 2010, he was a dick but...he bought me this cool necktie for Christmas in 2011 so Margo's good to go."

AT the same time, If a criminal case (such as say a murder or **** case) was handled as haphazardly as this one seems to be, it would've been appealed and absolutely thrown out.

 

Then how come Arum hasn't done anything about it? He's a lawyer right? Theres definitely more to this than we've been told.

I'm simply comparing that Margo IS getting a second chance, it's his fault we're even here discussing this. Had he followed the rules, none of this would've happened. He's not the first nor the last person to be denied a boxing license. Too bad.

 

Ignorance of the situation isn't an excuse though. "I didn't know" doesn't pass up in court.

It shouldn't be that way though. It should be one firm decision and that's that.

Either Margarito is suspended for life or he's reinstated on a probationary period and forced to pay additional compensation (15% of his final purse numbers) to the commission.

I'm actually taking a test right now I will certainly poor over it when I get out.