Margarito vs Cintron 2: The fight revisited.

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  1. BITCH ASS

    BITCH ASS "Too Fast" Full Member

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    Some people say that Cintron took the wrong approach to the fight. They say if he would have sat back and boxed that he would have had a much better chance to win the fight.

    The fact is that he threw everything in his arsenal at Tony, but Tony took it and kept coming. I can't believe how many stiff jabs and right hand bombs that Tony absorbed without blinking.

    And while Cintron isn't exactly a master boxer, he's not just a stationary slugger either. He's a boxer puncher and he's capable of moving around the ring and basing his attack off the jab, which is something he tried to do against Margarito.

    Against almost any other welterweight out there, there isn't a doubt in my mind that Cintron would have knocked them out or kept them far out of range and on the defensive.

    There are only two welters out there that I think have the capability to absorb those kinds of punches and keep coming, one you've seen, and the other one being Clottey.

    Chances are though with Clottey, that Cintron would have controlled Clottey from the outside and midrange with his jab being as Clottey has almost no outside game whatsover with the exception of putting his guard up and blocking punches, which probably would have resulted in another "broken hand."

    This fight was a true testament to Tony's toughness. He took on the hardest punching welterweight, took all of his shots, and slugged him down.

    So for ya'll, that think that Floyd would be able to keep him at bay, you've got to be delusional. Floyd won't be able to stop Margarito from coming, and he doesn't have the workrate to accumulate a TKO or a stoppage from cuts.

    In fact the only way that Floyd will be able to win this fight is to keep moving for an entire 12 rounds, and put Margarito in a postion where he has to reset himself. Everytime Floyd let's Margarito in close, ala Hatton, Floyd risks the chance of taking shots that you've never seen him get hit with before.

    The reason I say this is because when Tony gets inside, he doesn't just aimlessly throw punches, but he probes for openings, using feints, movements, and varying the speed and power of his punches. In fact, if he gets his opponent in a position where they're down and to the right, depending on where they position their hands, he'll jump to the right, so that they're open for a left uppercut, and a follow up right hand.

    Floyd has never seen an opponent as big and as tough as Margarito, but neither has Cotto. So this goes for Cotto as well. Cotto may not be able to hurt Margarito, at least not if he throws to his face. Body punches in this fight are going to be extremelly vital, but so is Cotto's movement, determination, and smarts.

    If Cotto stays in one place and doesn't vary up his attack or fails to go the body, Margarito will win this fight. Margarito is for real, and I'm not sure why many people on this site fail to see it.
     
  2. truewarrior

    truewarrior Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Agree...Thats why I dont like Mayweathers style I mean whats the point of watching a fight in which you know one person is ready to fight and the other is ready to run a marathon...Yea he cought Hatton with a stiff jab but theres no fun in that. I wish Cotto would step up and beat up May so we can get rid of this new era of champions who fight when they want to fight and only for fame. I still cant believe May said boxing wasnt to prove whos the best boxer....what a ****ing coward.
     
  3. BITCH ASS

    BITCH ASS "Too Fast" Full Member

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    Well, I understand where you're coming from, but I've grown to appreciate Mayweather's style.

    In fact, I think he's the most tallented boxer on the planet right now because of his style.

    How often do you see him get tagged cleanly? He never gets his, so while it appears like he's running, he's really just winning the fight because he's frusterating his opponent enough to the point to where they can't land anything and get continually countered.

    And if Floyd were naturally bigger, IE, he had a bigger punch and more strength and ability to take punches, but had the same type of PFP tallent, I think he would handle Margarito rather easily, but because Mayweather lacks the power and strength of a big or natural welterweight, a fight with Margarito would be an extremelly difficult one.

    If Floyd beat Margarito, "running" or not and it was a clear cut decision, I have to give him major props because of where he came from and how dangerous Margarito is as a welterweight.
     
  4. acb

    acb De Camaguey... Gavilan Full Member

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    There may only be two welters that could take Cintron's shots but then again taking his shots isn't the name of the game for most quality fighters.

    Cintron failed to invest in body work against Margarito and therein lies the difference between him and Cotto. You can't head hunt Margo like Cintron did and expect to get anywhere with a guy with a chin like Margo.
     
  5. BITCH ASS

    BITCH ASS "Too Fast" Full Member

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    I agree, but I think he didn't throw to the body because he was so worried about getting hit in the head, and with Margarito's workrate and power, I can understand why Cintron would be reluctant to put in work to his body.

    You are right though, Cotto will definitely have to go to Margarito's body to win this fight, but he'll have to be on serious lookout for uppercuts.
     
  6. truewarrior

    truewarrior Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Who do you guys think will win if Marg faces Cotto?
     
  7. BITCH ASS

    BITCH ASS "Too Fast" Full Member

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    peter5 Marco.A.Barrera Full Member

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    Cotto :deal
     
  9. Boom_Boom

    Boom_Boom R.I.P Boxing 6/9/12 Full Member

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    Margo is one, who is the other?
     
  10. BITCH ASS

    BITCH ASS "Too Fast" Full Member

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    Clottey.
     
  11. KMSTAR

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    It's obvious that team Cintron came in with the plan to know Margartio out and they never adjusted the plan after AM proved his beard could soak up whatever punishment they had to give out. And that is why Cintron received another embarrasising beat down.
     
  12. Wilhelm

    Wilhelm Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Yeah, Margarito was just a better BOXER than Cintron. He knew where to be to land punches, how to move Cintron around, and how to time him. He's no master boxer, but he totally outboxed Cintron that night. I didn't see it coming, but damn it, that's what happened.
     
  13. Atritionist

    Atritionist Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    After the Fight Cintron said that he could tellthat Margo really wanted the knockout. Saying, no matter what he did Margo was taking everything and kept coming forward very aggressively. He said.." he wanted it bad."

    This the same interview in which he said he was going for Cotto, for his countryman but expected Margo to win.
     
  14. MacManJr.

    MacManJr. Boxing Addict Full Member

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    This may be the best post you've ever made Cap. As far as Cintron and Tony. Tony has his heart. Cintron looked scared shitless to me before the fight even started and it only got worse after Tony walked through some big shots.
     
  15. pit

    pit Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    wow I have new found respect , and not because of your comment about floyd but because of your insightful, un bias opinion of a match up of two fighter.