Margarito vs De La Hoya (Who as the better Welterweight)

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  1. thePRESIDENT

    thePRESIDENT Active Member Full Member

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    If Margo beats does he move above Oscar as a Welterweight based on the following:

    Oscars best win at Welter was Ike Quartey. He lost to Mosley Trinidad.

    Did oscar ever beat an Elite fighter? was Quartey really Elite?

    in the all time standings there is no dispute about Oscars position he far exceeds Antonio's, I am just talking about Welterweight.

    Your opinions please
     
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  2. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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    Oscar is lightyears ahead of Margo at any level.:deal
     
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  3. Beeston Brawler

    Beeston Brawler Comical Ali-egedly Full Member

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    Plus Oscar was ripped off against Trinidad - and it could be said that he won both fights against Mosley
     
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  4. Thread Stealer

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    Sure, if the fight ended after 8 rounds.
     
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  5. Thread Stealer

    Thread Stealer Loyal Member Full Member

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    Quartey was a top fighter. Inactive going into the DLH bout though.

    While the Whitaker and Quartey wins were controversial, so was DLH's loss to Trinidad.

    DLH was the superior welterweight and a late 90s/early 00s DLH would be a solid favorite over a peak version of Margarito.
     
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  6. Bazooka

    Bazooka Pimp C Wants 2 Be Me Full Member

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    Oscar is too old to deal with that kind of work rate and power, as it has been said by many Floyd fans, Oscar can not deal with a high work rate. Oscar fades down the strech etc.. and fading against Tony equals a for sure death.
     
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  7. Ambition_Def

    Ambition_Def **** the people. Full Member

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    Margarito is going to have to score big on saturday and get revenge on Paul Williams. And maybe even rematch Clottey to show the world who is the better welter. If he does that then he surpasses DLH in my eyes. Cotto, Clottey 2x and a win over Williams will look better than wins over Vargas and Quartey.

    It all comes down to the rematches really. That is where DLH's resume kinda falls apart.
     
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  8. Thread Stealer

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    The Vargas win, and Mosley rematch, were at 154.
     
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  9. Samurai

    Samurai I lost an avatar bet Full Member

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    Did you even read the thread?
     
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  10. Ambition_Def

    Ambition_Def **** the people. Full Member

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    True but I think it's fair to look at both 147 and 154 as a whole. Not many of those guys jump to 160 and hold their own. And most of them fought at 147 anyhow.
     
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  11. Pimp C

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    :lol:
     
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  12. TanstA

    TanstA Legendary Full Member

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    margarito is B class, even C class.... if he beats Cotto and keeps beating the top opposition then of course... but right now, HELLLLL NOOO
     
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  13. Bazooka

    Bazooka Pimp C Wants 2 Be Me Full Member

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    all I see is a wall of text, remember:hey
     
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  14. Samurai

    Samurai I lost an avatar bet Full Member

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    It's broken up into pieces. Unlike your scattered piece of **** you call a post. :good
     
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  15. Sweet Pea

    Sweet Pea Obsessed with Boxing banned

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    He lost the first fight to Mosley, most feel he won the rematch. He clearly beat Trinidad and was robbed. And yes, Quartey was elite, though he actually arguably got a gift in that one. Was very close though. Oscar also arguably got a gift against Pea, but arguably won as well.

    Either way, regardless of how you scored those fights, he still holds a very clear edge over Margarito.
     
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