Margarito vs Mayweather

You can throw a thousand punches but when those punches are too slow and predictable then how will they reach the target?, maybe 1 out of a five punch combination, definitely not enough to make the damage he will plan to especially with Mayweather's defense.

As far as having to stand toe to toe to impress judges, that's not the case at all, judges also appreciate defense and the punches Floyd is going to throw and land will be scored points for, punching air for Margarito whilst being aggressive won't score nothing. You must be affective with your aggression and with Margarito's limited skills I just can't see him being affective ENOUGH to serious trouble Mayweather.

About Margarito coming forward all night, so did many others Mayweather already fought, in fact far more skilled than Margarito too. As long as Mayweather scores more punches every round and keeps Margarito scoring very little by swinging air the judges will score based on what they see.

As far as outworking Mayweather, that's your prediction and opinion, we all see the way we believe and want to. Based on styles Margarito lacks the speed and skills to really outwork someone like Mayweather, to outwork someone like Mayweather you need to have experience with fighters as skilled as that or fighters that fight in the same style affective enough, of course it's nearly impossible to find someone exactly like Mayweather to imitate for Margarito in the ring but does he have experience with defensive fighters?, not necessarily as good as Mayweather but decent ones?, the answer is no. Does Mayweather have experience with aggressive fighters?, yes he does and elite ones as well who beat Margarito in terms of skills. Margarito has TWO elite abilities, stamina and chin, those are A+ yet Mayweather also proved that his stamina is A+ though chin not tested well enough because he doesn't give anyone a chance to test it well enough but I assure you, one power punch won't be hurting Mayweather or dropping him, as many thought it will fighting DLH at Light Middleweight. If you want to trouble Mayweather you need to land and land A LOT and that's something Mayweather's style doesn't allow others to apply well enough. Margarito might want to hope for Mayweather to slow down late(doubtful) or break his right hand hitting him sometime during the fight, only if those two happen is when I honestly believe Margarito will prove to be putting Floyd in serious difficulties, otherwise it's all Mayweather for me based on their styles.

 

Mayweather by dicision. Mayweather will let Margarito fallow him to the ropes pot-shot and get out of trubble for 12 rounds. Borring? yes eficitive? yes.

 

Many people are saying that Margarito will throw 1000 punches, because Floyd does not have the power to keep him from advancing and throwing punches. Floyd may not have the POWER, but power is not the only thing that effects punch output. Since many are forgetting this, let me remind everyone of some things that Floyd will do to keep Margarito from even THROWING as many punches as he wants.

Also people are saying that Cotto was able to land many shots on Margarito that Margarito walked through just to land an uppercut. Thing is... Cotto did not plant his feet and throw power shots when Margarito was coming in. He flicked off quick combinations, as he was very focused on trying to get out of the way after he was done punching. Cotto landed some good flush power shots in the fight too, that didn't seem to effect Margarito, but Margarito landed some that Cotto took well too.

Floyd can throw with power any time, so he won't have to resort to throwing these ineffective punches. Also, Floyd throws punches that you don't see coming. He studies his opponents rhythm, his timing, and then throws punches from unusual angles like lead right hands and left hooks that you don't see coming. They may not have as much power on them as Cotto's punches.. but if you can't time your opponents punches, or don't even expect them to be coming in - this makes you cautious to go in.

In particular Floyd will throw just as Margarito tries to get set to throw a punch. This combined with footwork when Margarito tries to get set, will limit Margarito's output. Margarito gets ready to throw a punch, Floyd moves again. You can use side to side movement, that is.. as your opponent tries to get set you move to one side. You can take a step back as they try to get set. You can take a half step back so they hesitate then come back with your own punch. Cotto moved, but he only was able to just get away. He didn't use his footwork to his advantage for any other reason than to create space. Floyd is great at using it to keep his opponents off balance, keep them from getting set to throw punches, and to create opportunities for his offense.

And in terms of offense, Floyd also throws a great jab to the body. Not to the ribcage, liver, or kidneys like a hook, but to the solarplexus. This is very effective at keeping opponents off of him. You can't ignore this punch. It doesn't have much power, but its effective.

Limited output, combined with Floyd's ability to slip, roll, duck, parry, and block punches all night long.. I don't think Margarito is going to land enough punches to win rounds, since Floyd will be right there scoring with lead right hands, left hooks, and also I think good uppercuts, and he may even hook to the body if he gets his offense really going.

This is sort of my 'ideal gameplan' for beating Margarito for Floyd. Margarito has takes time to throw his punches... I see this as being a BIG factor in the fight. Floyd will keep him from being able to even TRY to throw 1000 punches. And what punches he does throw... you know most aren't going to land.

A good example of keep someone outputs down... watch the first couple of rounds of Hopkins-Calzaghe. Hopkins uses great footwork to keep Calzaghe from being able to throw as much as he wants to. Of course Calzaghe was able to get around this, and get to his game plan of throwing weak flurries of arm punches to impress the judges and win rounds without actually having to fight (whoops did I say that?).

Another good example of Tarver-Jones III. Tarver studied Jones's career for years... knew what to look for in Roy's game for whenever Roy was going to do something to put together some offense. Whether it was one of his **** fighting moves, some misdirection, or just throwing from odd angles - Tarver was ready.. and would either feint, throw his jab, or use footwork to make Roy have to think twice before he could put any offense together. Made for a super boring fight, but there was a very tough mental war going on between the two fighters!

But **** - Floyd doesn't even have to do this! He can just stay on his toes all night long, keep Margarito from even getting CLOSE enough to score, and pot shot. You know he can, and if he has to he will. No way Floyd loses this fight.

 

Damn Scar you make it sound like 1 loss would ruin Floyd's career and legacy.

 

Void will never fight Margarito, he has proven that.

 

One other point, although FMJ doesnt have to have power a such to hurt Margarito. What will / might hurt Margarito are the stinging accumulative punches that he wont see coming. Punches always hurt more when u dont expect them as they obviously dont give u enough time to move ur head with the punch etc.....See Floyd vs Gatti...and I AM IN NOWAY COMPARING GATTI TO MARGARITO...im simply using that fight as an example of wat stinigng accumulative punches can do :good

 

PBF is not unbeatable. Castillo and Margarito have similar styles. Margarito has a good chance in beating Floyd.

 

Id love to see Margarito beat FMJ & of all opponents in & around his weight class, Id say that he & DLH have the best chance but I truly feel he lacks the technique & boxing brain to beat FMJ.

I dont see Marg not getting to Floyd at 1 point as he is so persistant but the problem is, I see him getting to Floyd far too late & way behind on the cards with FMJs conditioning & defence enabling him to see the final bell.

Mayweather UD Margarito

(Id be rooting for Marg all the way tho)

 

In the first 6 rounds Cotto was landing at will against Margarito. Cotto got tired, his defense broke down, Margarito got going. Floyd doesnt get tired, Floyds defense doesnt break. Floyd by UD.

 

On this board it would be. Floyd loses to Margo. Floyd wouldn't be considered an ATG. Even for what he did at lower weights and no one would acknowledge the fact it was his 4th weight class that he lost at.

 

floyd cares about two things
1)money
2) his 0
he's willing to do what it takes to win at all costs and doesnt let his pride rule his head like cotto. Cotto let his pride get in the way of fighting a smart fight i watch the fight and pull my hair out just begging for the guy to clinch and lock up margos arms in close. PBF aint that stupid he's willing to ties his man up and is very underrated when it comes to working the body. Cotto to me didnt seem to invest in the body enough and it doesnt matter who you are if you eat body shots and swing at air you will get tired. Margo also doesn't cut off the ring that effectively so mayweather can counter off the ropes and pivot before margo even gets off
floyd easy easy UD and i hope to god this fight comes off so I don't have to keep hearing crap about how great margarito is

 

Ellerbe's gayness has passed to Floyd so the fight won't happen..ever

 

Sorry..with ALL the shots Cotto landed on MArgo , no way do I see Floyd hurting Margo..Cintron a big puncher couldnt do it and PW couldnt hurt MARGO... so If Margo doesnt see them coming from Floyd it wont make much difference.. He cant/wont hurt MArgo....Floyd knows this :good

 

Oh. My. God - yet ANOTHER PBF vs Margo thread :dead