Margarito vs Ross, Basilio, Griffith, Napoles,Cuevas, Benitez, Hearns, Tito, SRL, DLH

Cotto also badly rocked against judah and corley but resorted to low blows don't forget.
Torres certainly looked the part against Holt and Cotto, the odds closed at -175 for cotto, not very decisive.

the point is saying revisionist history when his best win was cotto when his best W was "over the hill" mosley does not qualify you over the ATG welterweight crop

 

Late money on a steep underdog isn't unusual, but I get your point.

Still don't think Torres put a whole lot of pressure on them...Cotto was walking HIM down and ripping his body up.

Corley was also at 140, and while Judah did hurt him, it wasn't nearly as bad as Corley and Torres did.

Disagree he needed low blows to win. He kicked the crap out of Torres and pretty much made him quit, the low blow that was actually on the cup against Judah came in a round Cotto was dominating, and Corley got pretty conclusively whipped(The stoppage was arguably a bit early.)

Cotto was a fine fighter with some awesome wins.

 

Margarito would be wayyyyyy out of his class against anyone of those great fighters.

 

No, quite a few thought Mosley won, probably wrongly, I did at the time after watching it again Cotto outboxed/outworked him for more rounds. Mosley said he wouldn't fight Cotto in NYC again after that too.

 

Cotto scraped by Mosley, and was rocked in the 10th and the ref gave him a break. It was hardly a boxing lesson by Cotto though, 7-5 about.

 

He was so feared that Williams wanted the rematch and Margarito said no

What a horrible, **** of an article. His best chance is Cuevas and it's slim at that.

 

Obvious bias against the contemporary fighters of the time and blatant hype of the current guy they're trying to push. Oscar and Tito would have whipped Margarito just as bad as anyone on that list. The closest Margarito comes to a win in that list is against Cuevas, as has been pointed out.

And as much as I hate to admit, Cotto did win, although close, against Mosley. I remember him clearly winning that one despite coming away maintaining that Mosley was still the better fighter.

 

Cuevas actually had at least as much of a rep for durability as Margarito did.Hard to say how overblown it was before Hearns, as being Hearns proof and having a great chin are two different things especially if you're not near him in overall talent.

he fought plenty of solid margarito level accumulation punchers(though usually in the guise of textbook stylist fighters like Ranzany rather than sluggers) but no one that really stands out.

i've always thought he'd be vulnerable to an upset against other really big punching Welters, guys who maybe didn't quite have his career at first glance, but often because they went up against more formidable or stylistically difficult opposition.

I don't see Margarito fitting that bill, but it would interesting to see if he turned out to be the stronger and was able to keep cuevas pushed back and struggling to get his big hooks thrown with full leverage.That could be another good style to upset Cuevas if you have enough chin and power, but he could **** fighters up so suddenly with seemingly weak punches i wouldn't be surprised to Marg laid out repeatedly in fights he was winning.His defence is just dire and he's even slower than Pipino imo.

 

Shame he couldn't prove it in the ring .

Stronger fighter, most definitely, which he wisely used to do what Cotto could not against Margarito. So he gained a small measure of vindication in that professional rivalry, even if Cotto would then one up him against Mayweather.

 

Yeah because winning one more round than Shane against an out of weight Floyd one ups the total destruction of Margarito Shane put on him :nut

 

I had Mayweather Cotto 7-5, and could entertain 8-4.

I had Mayweather-Mosley 11-1.

Miguel Cotto performed so much better against that common opponent that it is ridiculous.

I'd say that, yes, if I were Cotto, clearly beating Shane and putting Floyd through 12 rounds of hell would vindicate Mosley outdoing me against Margarito.

I think Floyd's wins over BOTH fighters are underrated. Cotto had reestablished himself and was larger, and Mosley was larger and coming off possibly his best career win.

Cruel irony that both fighters, after falling to Floyd, fell by the wayside to the next generation(Cotto might not be done, I thought the fight against Trout was a bit closer than the cards indicated).

My point, of course, is that we're slandering the guy in hindsight after Margarito was stoned by Mosley, wrecked by Pacquiao, and retired by Cotto. This article was written after Margarito looked like a juggernaught against the top welterweight in the sport. I'm sure he'd admit he was proven well wrong.

 

That's a horrible card.

Anyways, even though he did beat Cotto that still doesn't lend credence to him beating guys like DLh, Trinidad, Cuevas, etc. I don't give a **** about "hype" at the time.

 

I agree completely with your analysis. Cuevas-Margarito turns on who backs who up. Margarito on the hunt forward through great, powerful combinations(He was a damn good fighter in his prime, and people forget because they hate how he disgraced the sport on a big night). Cuevas, with his feet under him, was a nightmarish puncher.

If Margarito can get Cuevas into full retreat(BIG if), he eats him up. The uppercut and the overhand right in particular would be trouble for Pipino. If Pipino resists that, and keeps his base, his huge power would see him to a win.

There were two differences between Margarito-Cotto and Mosley-Margarito. Cotto couldn't hold his ground, and landed every big shot on the back foot, with most of the power sapped out of it. Mosley used the clinch and his physical strength to keep the fight in the center of the ring as long as he could, with his base under him, so he could throw full power.

A fight with Cuevas would turn on the same thing. Feet are everything at the highest level.

 

Plenty agree with me, and that evidence is a google search away. I, thus, don't consider the scorecard bad.

The Margarito against Cotto looked like a titan. Absolute machine. This wasn't the stupidest article I read about him at the time.

 

Margarito beating Benitez ? lol Jesus !