Margaritos hand update

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  1. marauder1999

    marauder1999 Champion Full Member

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    The California State Athletic Commission is in the process of analyzing the contents of Antonio Margarito's hand wraps, which were removed from the boxer's fists Saturday night, delaying the start of his fight (and ninth-round TKO defeat) against Shane Mosley.
    An athletic commission official told The Times today that the results of the investigation will be delivered "promptly," but declined to elaborate.
    Mosley's trainer, Nazim Richardson, reviewed the original wrapping of Margarito's hands and asked commission officials to remove the wraps because of excessive thickness. Extra pads and flecks of a "plaster-like substance" upon the pads raised suspicions Margarito and/or his camp had doctored the gloves to become harder as the match proceeded. Instead, the hands were re-wrapped, and Margarito was trounced by Mosley.
    Richardson told George Willis of the New York Post he thought the wraps were handled deceptively in a "deliberate" manner.
    Mosley's promoter, Richard Schaefer, of Golden Boy Promotions told me Monday he was convinced the athletic commission would investigate "that hand wrap, that cast, that they took in their box. ... They have a responsibility to look into it. Nazim noticed they tried to slip something in there."
    Todd duBoef, president of Top Rank, which promotes Margarito, said he believed all that was removed was "additional gauze," but Schaefer saw a photo of what was taken away and said, "it's more than additional gauze, that's not a good thing to say. There was a white pad with a substance that was a grayish, concrete color on it.
    "The thing is, you wonder now how many times he did it before."
    That indeed is on the mind of Margarito's defeated July opponent, Miguel Cotto, who lost by 11th-round TKO to Margarito -- his first career defeat.
    My Times colleague Kevin Baxter learned Cotto will appear at a news conference in Puerto Rico Wednesday to discuss a new boxing promotion company he'll oversee. There, he'll also address questions about whether he thinks Margarito cheated against him.
    "That's all that anyone is talking about down here," a Cotto camp source told Baxter. That individual could not be identified because he is not allowed by the boxer to discuss the controversy publicly.
     
    marauder1999, Jan 28, 2009
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  2. pngo

    pngo #1Contender Full Member

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    wow, thanks for the update! :good
     
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  3. venomus_p4p

    venomus_p4p Guest

    Thanks
     
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  4. thewoo

    thewoo Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I really don't know why this is taking so long. It takes about 15 seconds from someone that knows anything about the **** to pick itup out of the box and say "yup that's some illegal ****" or "stop bitching this is perfectly legal"
     
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  5. laffie

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    For a fan like you, it takes a second. For serious people wanting to follow legal rules, it's not that simple. They have to ship the substance to maybe 2 laboratories and wait for the analysis. Then, they have to decide what to do with the result. Serious things take time. Writing an opinion doesn't.
     
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  6. marauder1999

    marauder1999 Champion Full Member

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    the results of the investigation will be delivered "promptly"

    Im thinking before the end of the week they should have factual evidence.
     
    marauder1999, Jan 28, 2009
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  7. thewoo

    thewoo Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I just don't like it. Just think how much the **** can be tampered with from one lab to the other. There is only 2 legal substances that belong in a hand wrap and they are extremly easy to identify. If you can confirm that there is anything either than those to substances in there it's enough to have started a criminal investigation by now IMO
     
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  8. Bazooka

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    Bull****, there are only two items allowed to wrap your hands gauze and sprots tape thats it
     
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  9. magnificentdave

    magnificentdave Constant Reminder Full Member

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    Well there you go, they've already said it looked like something other than tape and gauze, so what do we need an official statement for?
     
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  10. Bazooka

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    HBO said that, the only thing we are waiting for is the commission to come out and confirm what HBO has said, that hasnt happend yet which is making me begin to wonder, after all it is mid week they have had plenty of time to investigate this.
     
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  11. H .

    H . Boxing Junkie banned

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    maybe it was a maxipad :silly
     
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  12. Bazooka

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    Honestly I have seen fighters use those in the gym to protect their knuckles, but i doubt they would use it in a fight like this, though they are often used in the gym by fighters
     
    Bazooka, Jan 28, 2009
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  13. Capitan

    Capitan Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    HA, HA, HA, HA, HA.....this is California dude.......the wheels of justice
    turn slowly here....and they don't grind exceedlingly fine.

    Lets hope the state officials doing the investigation aren't laid off before
    rendering their findings.

    The longer it takes the more nervous it makes me....

    1. They could be trying to get Capetillo to come up with a damn good explanation that may not be plausible but tolerable.

    2. They could be weighing the possible ramifications it would impose
    on this great and honest sport of boxing.
     
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  14. VARG

    VARG Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Did they mention what time Cotto would do the press conference?
     
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  15. NeckBreaknAiken

    NeckBreaknAiken Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Yeah this makes no ****ing sense!:huh

    Look. Either the substance is tape and wraps, or it's something that shouldn't be there. All these people saying "Wait for results" are just being naive. Whether it was plaster of Paris or plaster of Tijuana, it doesn't matter! It shouldn't have been in his glove...:-(

    And for those who say he was cleared in the Cotto fight... As much as I hate on Cotto (more than anyone on these boards probably) even I can admit that Cotto probably deserves the benefit of the doubt on that one.:good

    AND IT SHOULDN'T HAVE BEEN SIGNED OFF BY THE CALIF. COMMISSION! WTF!:fire
     
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