Margaritos Win Over Cotto is Bigger Than Floyd Mayweathers Biggest Single Win?

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  1. Addie

    Addie Myung Woo Yuh! Full Member

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    Cotto is much better h2h fighter than Hatton will ever be at 147. In fact, Quintana and Zab Judah are better h2h fighters at 147 than Ricky. I think this is why I don't think the Hatton win is in anyway comparable to Margarito's over Cotto. Cotto had an impressive career at 147, whereas Hatton had a non existant one. I felt he lost to Collazo, and Castillo was a shot fighter.
     
  2. TFFP

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    It certainly does for Cotto, and using that logic, bringing up Cotto's struggles with Torres/Corley is just as much as an irrelevance as me bringing up Collazo.

    Infact, its further off the mark. At least Hatton WAS actually fighting at 147 in this cross comparison.
     
  3. acb

    acb De Camaguey... Gavilan Full Member

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    What means more to you? Resume or who you really know is the better boxer?
     
  4. Addie

    Addie Myung Woo Yuh! Full Member

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    I am not surprised you do. Your a die-hard Floyd Mayweather fan, which almost makes you a liability in any discussion involving Mayweather Jr.

    The fact is, Oscar Del La Hoya lost, but any educated and objective Boxing fan would realise that he was past his prime. The Hoya of 8 years ago would have faired much better, because he lost a lot of his speed and stamina. This is why I don't think it is anyway comparable to the Cotto win. Cotto is a prime fighter, an undefeated one, who was beating everybody at 147, whereas Hoya hadn't been very active, with just a win over shot Mayorga.
     
  5. Thinman

    Thinman Well-Known Member Full Member

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    It is irrelevant how high or low a boxer is ranked in the P4P list. It means nothing, what it is important is who they are in their own division.

    It doens't matter if Hatton for example was # 3, 4, 5 or whatever when he fought PBF.... at the end of the day Hatton was a 140 pounder.... basically PBF defeated a boxer who was not even in the same division.

    In Cotto's case it is irrelevant too, because he was the man, or was considered the man at 147 by most, so who cares about P4P ranking? Cotto was the man and he was (still) more dangerous than the Castillos and Corrales that PBF fought.

    Let me just give you an example.... Margo is considered right now # 6 P4P by ESPN I believe..... but he is the # 1 right now at 147 and that's what it counts..... I would say that if you don't beat Margo or PW (Cotto too) at 147 then you are not fighting the best boxers at 147 period.

    IMO Cotto is probably a better win for Margo than any in PBF's resume, I am not so sure but I am leaning that way.
     
  6. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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    I couldn't agree more. People love throwing that around like the outcome would have been different if the fight was at 140. Well PBF offered to fight Hatton at 140 back in 2005 but was turned down....blame Hatton for the fight not happening at his so called "best weight".
     
  7. Addie

    Addie Myung Woo Yuh! Full Member

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    That is all speculation and have no business being in this particular discussion.

    Floyd Mayweather defeated a 140lb fighter at 147lb. Hatton was given hell by Collazo, and never particuarly looked impressive at that weight. Floyd Mayweather Jr got the job done and all credit to him, but in the context of this thread, it isn't comparable to Margarito's win over Cotto.
     
  8. Ambition_Def

    Ambition_Def **** the people. Full Member

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    When all is said and done Margarito will be remembered as a better 147lber. And that is what really counts.
     
  9. EpsilonAxis

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  10. Spitbucket

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    :lol:
     
  11. BigReg

    BigReg Broad Street Bully Full Member

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    Mayweather spent two years at WW, fighting 4 fights. If Margo can't manage to be considered a better WW than a guy with only 4 fights at the division, that's sad. 130 is really the only division that Floyd will get ranked at in a historical sense.
     
  12. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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    Laugh now cry later. The fact is PBF already beat Oscar at a weight he had no busines in with the deck stacked against him in Oscar's favor. He owns Oscar's golden panty ass deal with it Oscarsexual:hi: :good
     
  13. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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    It's not speculation. PBF is a small WW to begin with who walks around at 150. Hatton on the other hand walks around at 175 between fights and comes in for 140 pound fights at around 150 what's the difference?
     
  14. Spitbucket

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    Another fun fact. PBF's biggest win is a SD over a 34 year old past his prime part-time promoter/part-time boxer.

    Spin that all you want:hi:
     
  15. Thinman

    Thinman Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Exactly, that's the way it is. Giving the opportunity, Margarito will fight anybody and everybody.... whoever is (are) at the top, and that's what a real champ should do.... that's what Cotto was (trying) doing.