Margo being on the Ring top 10 P4P list was a joke

Didn't you guys know? If you have a size advantage over guys in your weight class, the wins don't count....

 

Margarito did have skill though. Look at how he would fight. He was so unbelievably strong and tough and he never, ever, ever ran out of energy. It's very difficult to handle a guy who has that type of strength and determination. Because their pressure can be difficult to cope with. You want to get him off of you, but he's constantly in your grill all night long.

 

Hey Tinman. I'm not trying to dog you and I suppose stamina, strength and toughness can somewhat be considered a skill slightly but he did lack footwork, defense to name a few. He would take a punch to give a punch and it eventually caught up to him. I agree with pimp in this thread. I don't think Margarita as far as skill especially having a size advantage in most of his fights should have been in anyone's p4p list. But p4p lists are opinion and preference. It's like me trying to tell people you should prefer Mexican food over Italian or something.

 

Pimp C is an old idiot full of agenda. He said Mayweather is the greatest in the last 25 years BECAUSE ESPN and Ring says so and so I am wrong for saying Pac is, because they are the premier sources, not me. But here, there and everywhere he's crying about The Ring's ratings and ESPN's ratings on things.

This dirty old fat supremacists agenda is real.

 

Having size advantage matters if you're able to utilise it to make you a better fighter. Margarito used it well enough to reach an elite level, regardless of whether we would've had him on the P4P list or not, he was seen as one of the top dogs and one whom Mayweather was very scared of in that room..always looking over his shoulder.

 

Margarito was garbage, he had no boxing skills, none. He won his fights solely from physicality and attrition kind of similar to how GGG wins today (except I'm not calling GGG garbage).

 

You're inferring that GGG has no boxing skills and relies on physicality. That's very off.

 

If it was so easy everybody would be doing it. Why is winning through attrition a bad strategy anyways? If you are facing an opponent with more technical ability than yourself then attrition can be the best strategy.

 

He contradicted himself on that one big time.

 

Margarito actually rehydrated to only around 156 or 157 for many of his WW fights. It wasn't that he was so big on the scale. It was his sheer physical strength was absurd. For some reason he always looked so huge. He's probably the biggest guy I've ever seen in boxing who could rehydrate well under 160 pounds.

 

It does make it hard for you be rated p4p if arguably your chief asset is weight cutting. His power is in question post wrap gate and the only other things he had going for him was his chin and ability to fight for the whole 12 but without his power who knows how legit he was throwing hard punches as the fights wore on.

The OP makes a valid point here IMO. If Margo was the same size as his opponents he tended to lose. Thus a p4p ranking seems a little silly.

 

Let's use the Brook fight as an example. Where did he use his superior skill? Brooks combinations looked better. I just saw size and strength as Brooks downfall in that fight.

 

Margarito didn't cut a lot of weight....

 

Mayorga made the p4p Top 10 following two victories over Forrest, so it follows that Margo might have crashed the ratings for a spell following his first victory over Cotto. Don't know if he warranted a ranking as high as 6 in the 2008 ratings, but the inclusion was understandable under the circumstances.

 

Against Pac he weight 165 on fight night.