Maricano's Great punching power

Definitely better than the sum of his parts.

Fighters like Ali ans Leonard would have been great whoever had trained them, but I see Marciano as somebody who might not have been great with another trainer.

 

I'm no boxing historian, but I recall AJ Liebling (Sweet Science or A Neutral Corner) quoting Rocky's handlers as saying that Rocky's power was a result of "natural leverage". That they were afraid to teach him any new techniques as they thought it might disturb his innate ability to generate power.

 

:thinkWhich Marx brother are you descended from, Chico, Dimmo, Zeppo, Nummo, Harpo, Dummo, Groucho or Gummo?

 

Baloney, it doesn't prove any such thing. Humphrey Jackson was just a fat bum who had been previously KO'd by a middleweight. And if you don't count Jackson, the average weight of those 200lbsers drops by about 5 lbs. Don ****ell was a blown up light heavy and looked out of shape at 205 lbs. Joe Louis at 213.75 was a dozen pounds over his prime weight and was moving in slow motion.

 

The truth is that Marciano today wouldn't even be a big cruiserweight. The big cruiserweights are well over 200 lbs in the ring. At 185 or 188, Marciano would be outweighed by some light heavyweights. Marciano's power against glass jawed blown up LHW Don ****ell looked thoroughly unimpressive in 8 ounce gloves.

 

Some guys can just obsorb tremendous punishment.

Look at the bombs Louis landed on LH Conn and didn't put a dent in him. He dispatched the bigger , heavier guys in half the time.

 

Stand down, nutbag.

****ell was a glass jawed blown up LHW. He had been knocked down and KO'd numerous times before at lower weights. In 8 ounce gloves, Marciano's power looked thoroughly unimpressive against this guy. I think that against the real "giants" (i.e. real heavyweights) in modern gloves, Marciano's power wouldn't get it done.

 

Its hard to rate the Rocks punching power, on one hand Dempsey said he hit harder then either Louis or himself, on the other Archie said that while he hit like a house it was still not as hard as Durelle from Canada (a lightheavy). Your joking on the glass jaw part aren't you? Even Patterson's much maligned chin wasn't glass, just not made to take a heavies punch. I've read articles by different trainers over the years talking about the subtle skill Rocky had when moving in on an opponent.

 

I recall the article where Ali was talking about their sparring for the computer bout. Though they wore 16 ouncers Ali said his body ached for several days from the Rocks punches. Ali was known for taking body punches well so I have always taken this as an indication of Rocky's heavyweight punching power. That and Dempsey's assessment (that Mariano hit harder then Louis or himself), and Larry Holmes view that the Rock would have given him the hardest match of any of them carries at least as much weight as the views of us laymen (smile).