Marina Hyde vs. Steve Bunce II

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Don't worry, Bodysnatcher, it was fully explained what I was hoping for when on to both offices.

An email explaining all details of the campaign was requested by Mr Blunkett's assistant, and a full debriefing requested by an assistant in the FF press office, so they could pass it on to Mr Blunkett and Mr Ahern.

The evidence for both I have.

 

about 2 months ago i rang the wildcard gym and had a great 5 min+ chat with freddie roach...i explained what the campaign was, he was very glad to give a quote, he then went on to tell me that he was going to be in manchester the following day with khan for the upcoming barerra fight, and to introduce myself if i was there {which i wasnt}...he had a lot going on that day, and from background noise it sounded like a lot going on behind him, but he was relaxed on the phone and at no point did he give the impression that he wanted to rush ending the call.

my point is that if some woman rang him tomorrow and asked him to recall our conversation, i bet he wouldnt remember...and i'm not a liar...it's not too dissimilar of a situation.

 

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Yes, because a glowing endorsement of Bunce was all the Beeb needed to start directing a serious part of their budget toward boxing again.

 

I really dont know what her problem is .

 

You turned her down for dinner, bunncey?

 

Good luck steve.

On another note is there any news on the froch - direll fight being aired in the uk? Sorry if this has been cleared up already im not a regular on this forum even though i'm british!

 

All of your efforts are appreciated Padraig.

 

Anything positive to say? She was shagging him while he was married to somebody else :rofl

 

Well I tried to get back on the comments page over at Guardian, but it seems they have taken the article down. Interesting.

 

The article is down at the Guardian?

Adios.

 

still there

http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/blog/2009/oct/01/olympic-funding-marina-hyde

 

a good buddy of mine, tim leonard, a freelance sportswriter in new york, added this...go on son..

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While Ms. Hyde's fandom seems intent on protecting the queen bee, they seem to be overlooking some of the other facts to what has been discussed here, prefering to lob comments about the intellect, or lack thereof, of boxing fans. Pay attention, Hyde fans, I'm certain you'll learn something.

1. Yes, the Bunce fans ARE upset. It should be pretty obvious why. It has little to do with the man they support and a LOT to do with the fact that Ms. Hyde called them liars in print and accuses them of using political quotes for their own gain. Given the amount of effort many people have put into the site (full disclosure, I am NOT one of them), I can understand why they are outraged that their work has been denigrated in this sophomoric way. Even after the person who obtained these quotes commented here to confirm their veracity, he was still told in a belittling way that he should attempt to leave with his dignity after being outed as a fraud. I'll say it again, he confirmed the authenticity of the quotes and still was shouted down by Ms. Hyde's masses. So who are the people who lack understanding and, apparently, can't read?

2. Bunce is not the developer, writer or editor of the site. The site is not "Bunce's campaign to get his show back on your telly" as Ms. Hyde incorrectly reports. His contributions to it have been minimal. He "checks in" periodically with the site creator/manager to provide updates on the cause boxing fans are fighting for. I'd say this places him in the upper-echelon of "celebrities" who prefer to avoid the fans that support their lifestyle.

3. Clearly, this started because of some sort of personal vendetta Ms. Hyde has with Bunce over being called "sweetheart." But then SHE is telling the boxing fans that THEY need to "toughen up." That seems contradictory to me. Bunce may well have a sexist streak, I don't know. But to get so overwrought by a comment like that that she admittedly doesn't recall verbatim? Surely, Ms. Hyde has been called worse.

4. Ms. Hyde backtracked when she claimed her item was meant to poke fun at people who use political quotes to support their cause. As my man DougM1970 said, that was the third of three paragraphs in the item. Speaking as a journalist, one would never put such a vital part of the story so low. And before the supposed point of the item, she would attack Mr. Bunce?

5. For all of the journalism "lessons" that have been doled out here in the last 24 hours, I find it interesting that Ms. Hyde did not try to contact the website to see if Bunce was connected with it more prominently or to find out his role in it before she decided to blast the people who spent their time and effort fighting for a cause they -- obviously -- believe in very passionately. She also never responded to Mr. Longcount, when he asked a very legitimate question about how she obtained his e-mail address. And the juvenile versions of Longcount (Longface, etc) used by Ms. Snide (oops, sorry, Hyde) should have been above her, given this is supposedly how she makes her living. Mr. Longcount merely was attempting to tell his side of the story and was shouted down by Ms. Hyde and her hair-loving minions. Ms. Hyde also never responded when asked who she spoke with to confirm the quotes. Just because one member of a politician's staff doesn't know Bunce, doesn't mean the politician himself doesn't. But those responses helped her cause, so she went with them.

Here's what likely happened. Ms. Hyde stumbled onto the website in some way, shape or form and saw one-time nemesis Bunce's picture. She figured she'd drop a three-paragraph insult into her column as her way of getting back at Bunce for his supposed "insult" that she "dimly" recalls. But then she let her guard down and didn't follow through with all the rules of basic journalism. One rule would be to contact the website or Bunce himself to ask why these quotes were on the website, given that their authenticity was in question. Ms. Hyde failed to do that.

As someone who is a sports journalist in the States, I was appalled by the repeated lack of respect she showed in her responses here. I write a blog as one of the many tasks i do at my newspaper and would never respond to anyone who commented in the way that Ms. Hyde did several times. I can see why she has her share of sycophantic fans. They're afraid of saying anything negative, for fear of becoming a target.

Maybe they teach journalism a different way in college (university) over there. Apparently, the course work includes How to be Sanctimonious 101 followed by Superiority Complex 102. I don't know if Ms. Hyde is the most famous journalist in the UK or an intern, or what she usually writes about, and I could not care less. She's rude. Period. And I can assure you that when I return to London in January that I will not be purchasing The Guardian