Mario Thomás Barrios vs. Gervontaa Davis & Erickson Lubin vs. Jeison Manuel Rosario Bаstardo RBR

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  1. African Cobra

    African Cobra The Right Honourable Lord President of the Council banned Full Member

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    No justification needed. Ellerbe confirmed several weeks ago again and when the fight was announced that Tank insisted on Barrios not him.
     
  2. African Cobra

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    It’s called ring generalship which is what Tank displayed last night. Allied to his power is legit speed, skills and toughness.
     
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  3. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft He Who Saw The Deep Full Member

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    Davis is a special puncher, not fighter. He has big power, he gets massive torque in his short arms, works everything through the hips, punches straight through the target and knows exactly how good he is at it. He has the confidence to go all out when it matters. He can find them on the front and back-foot, and he can set up almost all of the standard punches from a variety of angles. Hooks, crosses and uppercuts. All of them.

    The most intriguing part of his game is how he feints. Canelo-esque. Lots of emphasis on level change and directional feints, which both build power and is probably the most effective, albeit dangerous, type of feint. Starts low and goes high, or vice versa. Easy to counter if you know he's doing it, but if you don't, you're dropping your hands and walking straight into punches. His power only serves to make people more reactive, which then augments the feints, and then people bite them more, augmenting the power. It's a vicious circle for his opponents, which is why he's found everyone so far. His problem is that he has such poor foot speed because he's a fat **** that he can't get in range effectively.

    He also has a very good knack for reading people and patterns. Look at him adapt to Santa Cruz before he KOd him. He ate the first cross, parried the second, and threw a very high-level counter. All the while, slowly shifting his lead foot forward into orthodox, making his rear uppercut a lead uppercut. Working with Floyd has clearly improved these sorts of things, even if his all-round game is pretty basic and he's easy to out-box.
     
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  4. drenlou

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    De la hoya vs Trinidad, a draw? Wow
     
  5. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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  6. drenlou

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    Other hard fights to score were the Pac vs Marquez Trilogy, and Barerrera vs Morales Trilogies. Who do you think won Barrera vs Marquez?
     
  7. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    Well evidently the guy you hired sucks at his job. Because there's about 4 you got badly incorrect. But, you're young nd it takes quite some time to be able to pick up on little nuances most miss. Still, even now you're better than most. Although I wouldn't brag about that, because... most proper judges seem to have a propensity to not know what the **** they're talking about. @IntentionalButt and I are Outliers (Malcolm Gladwell Outliers that is), we learned on the job by watching and judging 10's of thousands of matches. We've more than put in our 10,000 hours. So no, your scores don't quite matter the most, after all, there's currently 1000's of professional boxers who have trainers, and they can't box their way out of a wet paper bag. Just because someone is officially trained, that doesn't make them good at their jobs.;)

    Overall, pretty good. But I'll highlight the ones you're wrong about...

    116-112 Golovkin
    117-111 Golovkin

    116-111 Kovalev
    117-111 Fenech
    119-109 Pacquiao
    117-111 Korobov
    114-112 Mayweather or 113-113
    117-111 De La Hoya
    116-112 De La Hoya

    Boom!
     
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  8. drenlou

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    5 rounds at best for Trinidad.. i havent watched the fight in a long long time, may need to rewatch it but the last time i watched it, i had De La hoya winning around 7-8 rounds. May need to rewatch it
     
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  9. CST80

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    It's been quite some time since I've seen it, but I remember I gave it to Marquez, but just barely. Probably in the 115-112 to 114-113 range.
     
  10. drenlou

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    115-112 to barrera was my score. That fight was tough to score for sure.
     
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  11. CST80

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    Might be worth rewatching. I haven't seen it in a long time. I've gotten better at judging since then.
     
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  12. drenlou

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    i have the whole De la hoya vs Trinidad ppv card, and im not working tommorow, so i may put it on at 9pm est time and watch it like its, 1999!!!!!!

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  13. CST80

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    Yeah, sometimes they have the misfortune of getting KTFO, which is the only way they lose on your scorecard. Of course there is always those rare cases where fighters you like take on Mayweather, so you have to pick a favorite, and we know who'll always win out, don't we? I have a feeling I know which Toney losses you consider legit.:lol:
     
  14. drenlou

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    Absolutely!
     
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  15. CST80

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    Yes, to most objective observers, Tank lost either 3 to 4 of the first 4 rounds. They were not even close to even. Clearly you're British, the land of inexplicable indecisiveness, when it comes to home fighters.... with you it's a fighter you're rooted for. 10-10's are FEW and I mean FEW and far between. We didn't have 4 in a row last night.m You just provided proof of just what a biased clown you are.:lol: