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the evidence is testimony from several people including records from their alleged doping doctor. So there isn't 'no' evidence.

Secondly, the physical attributes of many of the team are impressive including how much they ran. I.e. when they were successful, they ran a lot, Xavi ran more than any other player in the 2010 world cup final. And other Spanish players ran more that any of the dutch players. In the 2012 world cup, they ran less with an aging squad, and perhaps more speculatively, their alleged doping doctor disgraced. But they weren't successful then, so any point your making about that world cup and how much they ran doesn't relate to their successful period!

 

First of all your quoting soccer facts that you don't understand

The reason xavi ran more than anyone else at the 2010 World Cup is because he was on the pitch longer than anyone else 7 games and extra time

On average distance covered the number one player at that World Cup was Michael Bradley

On average the American team covered more ground than any other team followed by Japan and Ghana, Spain on average were no where near the top teams in terms of average distance covered, there was nothing special about there athletic performance the only thing special was there technical performance

On the study of the 2010 World Cup it showed that there was no relavence between average distance covered and success so that further bebunks your theory

Also I don't mean to embarrass you further even though you've seriously tried to twist the truth here but when was the 2012 World Cup lmfao

 

Exactly , peds don't give you skill, you can be the greatest athlete of all time but you will still be a shitty soccer player if you have no skill

 

True, but take a talented soccer player and add stamina, speed and strength and you have a much better player.

 

Yes but accusing someone of gaining an advantage from peds when they don't run fast, don't need to show great stamina and are basically midgets with incredible technical ability is ******ed

 

claiming the spanish system, requiring massive off-ball movement when in possession and pressing all over the pitch when not, doesn't require huge stamina illustrates a fundamental inability to understand the game.

also loving the claim torres and navas don't run fast.

 

I meant 2014, my bad.

No you don't understand that statistic, it was the final. IE, most of the players were on the pitch the same time as Xavi, which means the Spanish players ran farther.

From the wiki page on work rate in footy, ie the definition of workrate:
'An example of a player with a high work rate is Xavi, midfielder with Barcelona and Spain. During the final of the 2010–11 UEFA Champions League, Xavi ran almost 12 km, more than any other player in the game.[2] The same is true of the final of the 2010 FIFA World Cup, when he covered a distance of 14.98 km (including extra time).'


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Work_rate

the fact that they ran less in the 2014 world cup and weren't successful only highlights the fact that they needed a reasonably high work-rate for success.

 

tbf I don't think America were on PEDS. they ran their legs off trying to double for attack AND defence, and that's why they lost - their fitness petered out before Flanders feet, and they simply had nothing left in the last part of extra time.

Now Belgium - they ran so hard into extra time, they may well have been on PEDs!