Mariusz Wach vs Rocky Marciano

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  1. Mendoza

    Mendoza Hrgovic = Next Heavyweight champion of the world. banned Full Member

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    I think Povetkin would UD Marciano in an action type of fight.
     
  2. HerolGee

    HerolGee Loyal Member banned Full Member

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    the phrase OMG was probably invented for situations like in this thread.
     
  3. mrkoolkevin

    mrkoolkevin Never wrestle with pigs or argue with fools Full Member

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    You're reading way too much into this (allegedly) 300lb heavybag.
     
  4. Mendoza

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    Yeah, but we can tell how the bag reacts regardless of the length of the chain. I judge the impact of force.

    Where you hit the bag matters some. On the top it won't move as much. On the bottom, it will swing a bit more.

    Link to the heavy bag

    [url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n8RON1PtV_0[/url]

    Thoughts: Go to the 59-second mark for the heavy bags.

    Marciano can dent it, but I did not find him to be great bag power puncher on this film. He simply lacks the mass equation on force.

    What impressed me is how he is able to generate force from short distances and the leverage he put into it.

    Other training observations. Rocky isn't smooth with his footwork, nor he is anything but average on the speed bag, however, he knew how to get into range and his duck and hook combo worked in the ring.

    I'm going to start a new thread on this training footage.
     
  5. RockyJim

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  6. janitor

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    To ask the obvious question, who has Wach actually beaten?

    Nobody really.

    There are cruiserweights today, who would be installed as a betting favourite over Wach, if he ever agreed terms to fight them.

    Whatever the merits of the superheavyweight argument, it carries little currency here.
     
  7. foreman&dempsey

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    these people who think that Povetkin will have chance against marciano is crazy LiKe heLl.and the people know thAt i am not the biggest rock fan.Rocky kills him KiLls Him BAdly
     
  8. HerolGee

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    bags... don't hit back

    anyway wach wouldn't get in a top twenty in rocks day, nevermind a title shot.
     
  9. latineg

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    how would you know :p
     
  10. Mendoza

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    Wach has beaten a good amount of name journeyman types. He has an iron chin and a lot of size. He'd be ranked in the top 20 in Rocky's day.

    Just like Abe Simon was ranked as high as #4 in Joe Louis day, and Hein Ten Hoff could be viewed as top 15- 20 in Rocky's timeline. If you don't know who Simon or Hoff was, they were big men with durability and a bit short on skills. I'd say Wach has more skill than Simon.

    The lack of depth in your posts is only rivaled by your ability to dislike certain fighters.

    PS: A bags can hit back if you get to close, particularly the double end bag. I suggest you try it up close :)
     
  11. HerolGee

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    hey dude, look up how to sell something, clearly you aint got the knack. You could at least have said hes got Haggler on his record.
     
  12. reznick

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    It's way harder to move a heavier bag, even with equal chain lengths.
     
  13. reznick

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    Now you're starting to make sense! :good:D
     
  14. SmackDaBum

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    Only in America...