Marlon Starling SD12 Simon Brown

Flea...Thanks alot for the upload! One of those fights that I've always wanted to see...but it kind of fell through the cracks. Good fight. Starling was impressive...scored the fight 9-3 in favor of Moochie.
Been awhile since I've looked at that era of fighters...Have to say Moochie would have given Mosely more than he wanted...from what we were talking about in the other thread.
Cheers man!

 

Thanks Flea, hadn't seen this one before. I had it 8-3-1 for Starling. I don't think Brown boxed as much as he just tried to throw the necessary punches to keep Starling off him. He just looked a bit in over his head.

Fights like this aren't a bad way to gert a tough education, if you're Brown.......being Starling, he isn't likely to put TOO big a physical beating on you, and everybody knew he was smart and savvy, so Brown's handlers probably felt okay about throwing their guy in with Moochie then. He may very well lose, but Starling would most likely let him last a while, maybe win a round or two and then figure him out. Not too damaging a loss either physically or mentally. That wouldn't be too difficult to recover from.

 

Starling won the fight pretty cleanly.

8-4 or thereabouts.

 

It's a very good win obviously and one of Starling's best.

What about Hearns?

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I watched this about a year ago. Had it 8-4ish for Starling. Don't think it was close enough to warrant the split decision. Based strictly on accomplishments, yeah I could buy the argument of him being 3rd best welter of the 80's.
Although I felt Brown was a little green in this fight, I still rate it. I'd put it in the same realm as Starlings wins over Honeyghan and Breland. I think Starling's best showings were the close losses to Curry. I felt he could've gotten the first one had he been a little more busy.

 

Agreed. I thought the first Curry fight was very winnable for him, but his own inexperience showed there. He should have put the pedal down a bit more.

As an overall accomplishment, I have to rank this one below Honeyghan simply because of the green-ness factor. Brown was a better career fighter than Honeyghan, whom I think is all kinds of overrated, but he was still The Man in the welterweight division when Starling smacked him down.

Aside from Leonard, Hearns, and Curry, I'd call him the third best welter of the decade. That's fair.

 

Yeah, you're right about Honeyghan. I'm guilty of revisionist history, which I hate, regarding that fight. I don't recall, but I'd expect Honeyghan was a favorite going in to his fight with Starling.

 

Heheheheheh.............I just noticed my math there. Nice work Sal. "Except for these three guys he's the third best." Dumbass.

 

Flea brings up a good point; it's very arguable as to whether Hearns should be considered better than Starling at 147, based on longevity and accomplishment. He did (rather emphatically) dethrone a longtime champion in Cuevas, stopped the always tricky and high-quality Shields (albeit on cuts I think, haven't seen it), and then put in a magnificent effort that only an ATG like Leonard could have overcome in the unification fight.

I guess based on that, I'd still want to say Hearns made more of a mark. Moochie was around longer, but his was more of a low-grade fever compared to Hearns.........